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a kennedy

(33,334 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 11:09 PM Jan 2025

and there goes Justin Trudeau......

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is expected to announce as early as Monday that he will resign as Liberal Party Leader, The Globe and Mail reported on Sunday, citing three sources.

The sources told the Globe and Mail that they don't know definitely when Trudeau will announce his plans to leave but said they expect it will happen before a key national caucus meeting on Wednesday.

The Canadian prime minister's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment outside regular business hours.

It remains unclear whether Trudeau will leave immediately or stay on as prime minister until a new leader is selected, the report added.

Trudeau took over as Liberal leader in 2013 when the party was in deep trouble and had been reduced to third place in the House of Commons for the first time.

Trudeau's departure would leave the party without a permanent head at a time when polls show the Liberals will badly lose to the Conservatives in an election that must be held by late October.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-pm-trudeau-announce-resignation-014243980.html

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and there goes Justin Trudeau...... (Original Post) a kennedy Jan 2025 OP
Well, there goes my planned move to Canada! Intractable Jan 2025 #1
Just wait! When Canada defeats the US, you'll become a Canuck. usonian Jan 2025 #2
I've seen the South Park movie. We attack them with guns and tanks. They fight back with chainsaws and power tools. Intractable Jan 2025 #4
I missed that. But invasion attempts HAVE failed. usonian Jan 2025 #6
Ya mean, John Candy the gawd of comedy?? and a ton of other comedians that I can't remember a kennedy Jan 2025 #8
Wikipedia says usonian Jan 2025 #13
Trudeau has a plan ..... Lovie777 Jan 2025 #3
Maybe running to kiss Trump's ring right after the election was the kiss of death. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #5
Shut up.....please don't. That absolutely scares the shit outta me...... a kennedy Jan 2025 #9
I was hoping the sane part of the US could become Canada's 11th province. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #31
Trudeau has been doomed since long before the US election Fiendish Thingy Jan 2025 #11
Is there a chance the liberals can hammer together a coalition to beat the conservatives? SunSeeker Jan 2025 #17
But of course! ThePartyThatListens Jan 2025 #27
Pierre Axe the Tax Poilievre has nothing but slogans because realistic policy would endanger his personal ambitions. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #19
Trudeau was Prime Minister in 2015 before tRump. He shook hands. He didn't die, nor kiss his ring Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #18
I like Trudeau. But he didn't need to break his neck getting down to the US asap after the election. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #32
The invitation was issued before tRump made his tariff threats. Trudeau beat tRump in 2018 Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #34
Trudeau's problems have nothing to do with Trump JI7 Jan 2025 #24
Sad news bdamomma Jan 2025 #7
Inflation and immigration dalton99a Jan 2025 #10
That is a false media narrative Fiendish Thingy Jan 2025 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2025 #14
GMTA. niyad Jan 2025 #16
No, Trudeau has been low in the polls since 2023. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2025 #22
Of course he is. But "anything is possible" is no evidence and completely spurious Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #23
Trudeau's difficulties predate Trump's meddling with Canada Mike 03 Jan 2025 #30
I wonder what TRAIITOR** threatened him with? niyad Jan 2025 #15
Nothing. Trudeau has been in office for nearly 10 years, a long time in modern Canadian politics Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #21
Affordable housing and the health care system were strained during the past several years in Canada. C0RI0LANUS Jan 2025 #25
Thank you for explaining some of the issues, history, and factors to our American friends. Well written post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #26
Happy New Year, Bernardo de La Paz, and you're welcome. How are you doing? C0RI0LANUS Jan 2025 #28
And Happy New Year to you and all as well. I am well and looking forward to good possibilities for me ahead. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #29
Glad to hear it. Did you see my OP on the first-ever CBSA pre-clearance post in NYS? C0RI0LANUS Jan 2025 #33
Nobody wants to hear it. EllieBC Jan 2025 #35
Hi EllieBC (so BC must mean British Columbia). Who say's this cat is dumb? C0RI0LANUS Jan 2025 #36
It's sadly too warm. EllieBC Jan 2025 #37

usonian

(17,243 posts)
2. Just wait! When Canada defeats the US, you'll become a Canuck.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 11:20 PM
Jan 2025
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219867240

Come the US invasion:
2025 Fearless Prediction Number 2. America loses war with Canada when CyberTanks are bricked with a software update.

Intractable

(976 posts)
4. I've seen the South Park movie. We attack them with guns and tanks. They fight back with chainsaws and power tools.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jan 2025

This is a settled matter.

usonian

(17,243 posts)
6. I missed that. But invasion attempts HAVE failed.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 11:41 PM
Jan 2025


For not being bilingual.

🍁Et Bonsoir! 🇨🇦

a kennedy

(33,334 posts)
8. Ya mean, John Candy the gawd of comedy?? and a ton of other comedians that I can't remember
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:05 AM
Jan 2025

but absolutely love……there goes our brother and sisters of comedy. What the world needs now is comedy. We lose Canada……we lose the comedy bone in our bodies. Seriously, comedy……

usonian

(17,243 posts)
13. Wikipedia says
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:35 AM
Jan 2025

Alan Alda
John Candy
Bill Nunn
Kevin J. O'Connor
Rhea Perlman
Kevin Pollak
G.D. Spradlin
Rip Torn

And leaves out Mountie Dan Aykroyd.
Musta been just a cameo.
Maybe there were ore cameos.

Irish_Dem

(68,614 posts)
5. Maybe running to kiss Trump's ring right after the election was the kiss of death.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 11:37 PM
Jan 2025

Everything Trump touches dies.

a kennedy

(33,334 posts)
9. Shut up.....please don't. That absolutely scares the shit outta me......
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:07 AM
Jan 2025

There immediately goes the plan for Canada to becoming the #51 state. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

Fiendish Thingy

(19,112 posts)
11. Trudeau has been doomed since long before the US election
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:23 AM
Jan 2025

His resignation will at least give his party a fighting chance in the next election, instead of coming in third, or even fourth place.

Hopefully, without Trudeau around, the spotlight will shine on Polievre’s character flaws and shortcomings.

SunSeeker

(55,524 posts)
17. Is there a chance the liberals can hammer together a coalition to beat the conservatives?
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:20 AM
Jan 2025

Sadly it seems Canada has been infected by our hate propaganda and anti-immigrant fervor. What is ironic is that so many of the immigrants that conservative Canadians hate are also conservative.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,847 posts)
19. Pierre Axe the Tax Poilievre has nothing but slogans because realistic policy would endanger his personal ambitions. nt
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:30 AM
Jan 2025

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,847 posts)
18. Trudeau was Prime Minister in 2015 before tRump. He shook hands. He didn't die, nor kiss his ring
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:28 AM
Jan 2025

Trudeau knows how to massage tRump's ego without giviing in. He negotiated a NAFTA 2 with tRump that is good for Canada, and now tRump is whining about his own treaty.

Trudeau's been in power for nearly 10 years. tRump not so much. Part of that time has been in minority government, which takes real skill to navigate and get things done, as he has. In a situation akin to minority government, tRump failed against Nancy Pelosi 2019 through 2020, as he will with Jeffries beginning in 2027.

Irish_Dem

(68,614 posts)
32. I like Trudeau. But he didn't need to break his neck getting down to the US asap after the election.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:51 AM
Jan 2025

I don't think that was a strong negotiation move.
Trump respects strength and power.
He may love the ass kissing he is getting but he doesn't respect the toadies.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,847 posts)
34. The invitation was issued before tRump made his tariff threats. Trudeau beat tRump in 2018
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:03 AM
Jan 2025

In 2018, Trudeau negotiated against tRump and the three countries signed NAFTA 2.0: the USMCA. It has been good for Canada and now tRump is whining that his own deal is no good.

Check out Trudeau's charity boxing match with Senator Brazeau, 30 pounds heavier and taller than Trudeau. Spoiler: Trudeau won convincingly.

Trudeau took his party from third place in Parliament into a majority government in two short years. He plans and acts with strength.



If you are looking for toads, look no farther than the dozens of American billionaires trekking down to Mierde-a-loco and donating millions to tRump's inauguration which his is directing into his own PAC to pay for his legal troubles and lawsuits.

JI7

(91,789 posts)
24. Trudeau's problems have nothing to do with Trump
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:57 AM
Jan 2025

if anything Trump going after him could only help him but he has become too popular already .

bdamomma

(68,063 posts)
7. Sad news
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:01 AM
Jan 2025

I wish and hope our neighbors will be able to stand strong for their beliefs and live free.

dalton99a

(88,275 posts)
10. Inflation and immigration
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:09 AM
Jan 2025
Although Ottawa spent heavily to protect consumers and businesses, racking up record budget deficits, this provided little protection from public anger as prices soared.

A botched immigration policy led to hundreds of thousands of arrivals, straining an already overheated housing market.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,112 posts)
12. That is a false media narrative
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:30 AM
Jan 2025

Housing is overpriced because the government insures a significant portion of mortgages, meaning lenders don’t have any skin in the game, and will lend outrageous amounts to borrowers.

In addition, thousands of units are used for Air B&B rentals instead of long term occupancy.

The real estate industry is a much larger portion of the Canadian economy, and the leaders of the three major parties are all beholden to the industry, so blaming immigrants is a much safer strategy than say, dissolving the CHMC, forcing lenders to take all the risk and reducing the number of qualified buyers at current prices, which would drive prices down.

Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #20)

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,847 posts)
23. Of course he is. But "anything is possible" is no evidence and completely spurious
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:46 AM
Jan 2025

Trudeau was in the same kind of trouble as he is now when it looked like he would be welcoming President Harris, though Freeland may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, the tipping point.

So, please, just drop the myth that tRump is all powerful and controls everything.

This is Canada. We have our own system and our own politics, thank you very much.

Mike 03

(18,403 posts)
30. Trudeau's difficulties predate Trump's meddling with Canada
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:13 AM
Jan 2025

It goes back quite a ways. He began losing his cabinet during the summer of 2024. And in a sense, even that wasn't "the beginning." The death knell is that members of his own party are asking him to step down.

What is bad about the timing is that so many democracies are shifting or faltering at the same time: Austria, Germany, France, Canada, and probably some I'm not thinking of. Italy? The UK just finally got Labour into power--talk about a bad time for so many western democracies to pivot far right.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,847 posts)
21. Nothing. Trudeau has been in office for nearly 10 years, a long time in modern Canadian politics
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:33 AM
Jan 2025

He's been low in the polls for more than a year before tRump even debated Biden.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
25. Affordable housing and the health care system were strained during the past several years in Canada.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:29 AM
Jan 2025

Canada has an older population and needs youngsters. Canadian PM Justin Trudeau gave asylum to thousands of refugees like the ones pictured below from Syria.


(Photo: Reuters)

In addition to these asylum seekers, normal immigrants and post-invasion Ukrainian refugees came to Canada, straining the affordable housing market. The preceding COVID supply shocks also hurt Canadians in the pocketbooks.

Canada was already losing physicians to the better paying US (see article below) and the influx of "foreigners" (students, temp workers, immigrants) strained the health system (on top of the creaking housing market). Ottawa then announced a reduction of annual immigrants.

Justin Trudeau had to work with a coalition with the NDP to hold on to power. The NDP is to the left of the Liberals. But that relationship is strained because of NDP accusations that Trudeau didn't keep his promises.


Jagmeet Singh, head of the New Democratic Party (NDP) since 2017.

The Canadian population (I think) don't regard Trumpf highly and Trudeau's visit to Mar-a-Lago was to help their future economy, not fear of the orange shit-gibbon.

Sources:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2024/10/20252027-immigration-levels-plan.html

https://newcanadianlife.com/why-do-canadian-doctors-move-to-the-us/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-ndp-ending-agreement-1.7312910

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,847 posts)
26. Thank you for explaining some of the issues, history, and factors to our American friends. Well written post. . . . nt
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:40 AM
Jan 2025

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,847 posts)
29. And Happy New Year to you and all as well. I am well and looking forward to good possibilities for me ahead. . . nt
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:03 AM
Jan 2025

EllieBC

(3,445 posts)
35. Nobody wants to hear it.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jan 2025

They prefer to believe that Canadians are delighted with our perfectly fine working system.

They don’t want to hear about healthcare wait times or the fact that as immigration shot up no other services were increased. They don’t want to hear about all of these things, they just want to believe that it’s a utopia and Trump somehow is ruining it.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
36. Hi EllieBC (so BC must mean British Columbia). Who say's this cat is dumb?
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jan 2025

Canada has its own issues from what I read, Trumpf notwithstanding. The Oligarch-in-Chief is helping to waste Ottawa's time and money with their new border plan. I recently posted that the CBSA (Canada's border agency) will be establishing a pre-clearance post in NYS inside the US for the first time ever. The US and Canada enjoyed the longest, peaceful border for over 100 years.

From the Government of Canada:

Canada is investing $1.3 billion to bolster security at the border and strengthen the immigration system, all while keeping Canadians safe. This includes $667.5M for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, $355.4M for the Canada Border Services Agency, $180M over 6 years for the Communications Security Establishment, $77.7M for Health Canada, and $20M over five years for Public Safety Canada.


This is probably money Canada (a G-7 country, NATO ally helping Ukraine, and US NORAD partner) could have used for their health care system, defense of the Arctic, or helping address the homelessness problem.

Between 30,000 and 35,000 people are homeless on any given night in Canada.


Many progressive Americans would prefer to live in a country with a low homicide rate, strict gun control, and universal healthcare coverage (despite the problems we addressed).

Happy New Year EllieBC and stay warm up there.


Sources:

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/12/the-government-of-canadas-border-plan-significant-investments-to-strengthen-border-security-and-our-immigration-system.html

https://madeinca.ca/homelessness-statistics-canada/

EllieBC

(3,445 posts)
37. It's sadly too warm.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:18 PM
Jan 2025

I’m in the lower mainland of BC and it’s been a warm and wet winter. Just a handful of flurries so far unless you go up to the mountains.

And thanks for your links. I mean “no one wants to hear it” as in non Canadians don’t want to think Canadians aren’t happy.

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