Brainwashing of the USA

[yankee87]

Maybe I'm the one who did not see, what I saw on 1/6/21. I saw a vast majority of the country and the word watch as a mob attempted to overthrow the elections. I saw a hangman's noose, cops being beaten, etc. Within a year, the majority of the country seems to believe it didn't happen, it was Antifa, a FBI staged counter-op.

I admit I don't know the answer, but how do we counter the Reich wing media brainwashing? Should we flood the media and net with none stop lies about just BS about MAGATS?

[bdamomma]

1. Well

apparently some Americans have short term memory problems, I will never forget watching in real time how those insurrectionists tried to stop the peaceful transition of power, and that felon is still talking about how he won in 2020. WTF!!!!!

Also, the felon is pledging to pardon all Jan. 6th insurrectionists, will he, or won't he?????

[MadameButterfly]

3. Why wouldn't he?

[spapeggy]

5. At the end of the day he still needs people that he disrespects

I don’t think a large portion of law enforcement officers, judges, lawyers or prosecutors would be too keen on Trump pardoning people that physically assaulted police officers.

[rampartd]

7. they don't seem to have a problem with it so far

they think i'm brainwashed because i didn't see the peaceful tourists or were they violent antifa?

i do not get it.

[MadameButterfly]

9. A large portion of the law enforement officers voted for him

so it appears enough of them are ok with assaulting police officers.
He's been trashing anyone involved in the justice system and threatening people for doing their jobs. No sign he is concerned about what they think.

He does care what his base thinks. He has to make up for selling them out on immigration. And he needs his Brownshirts so freeing the Jan. 6ers is the way to guarantee they'll do whatever he wants.

[Norbert]

13. OK with it. Many of the MAGA reps want the Capital Police brought to justice

Never mind that some died, were maimed and some left their profession because of PTSD and other mental issues.

[MadameButterfly]

14. Seriously, are they going after the Capital Police?

What is the charge? Do they expect to have any Capital Police after they do that? Do they remember running for their lives?
It just get's weirder and weirder

[yankee87]

18. Police backing a felon over prosecutor

I have police in my family, they voted the felon. Police Unions backed him.

Whatever respect I had for police, I 100% loss. Now with Ohio charging for police videos, that we already paid for. With floriduh giving a 25-foot zone, because of officer safety.

[paleotn]

25. Nothing in it for him. He's transactional. Demands loyalty. But is loyal to no one.

Unless he can profit from it, they're staying in jail.

[MadameButterfly]

28. He can profit

He needs rioters and private militia to do his bidding. These people are prone to violence and would be forever loyal.
As he said at the oval: "These guys aren't here to hurt me."

[bdamomma]

34. He's

vindictive enough to do it, that's for sure.

[MadameButterfly]

2. No. We need to set a stark contrast

Not just fewer lies. Not just smaller, less important lies. NO LIES.
Or they won't be able to tell the difference.

Someday, when they realize they were lied to, they need to know where to turn.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. We don't need to lie. We need to promulgate the truth. Video. Non-stop.

Can't erase the truth for very long.

[rampartd]

8. "this is the west. when the legend becomes the truth. print the legend"

trump has become, for millions of americans, "he man who shot liberty valance"

i do not get it either, but history is written by he winners, and that does not seem to be us.

did you watch either of those debates and observe trump answering any question? or even attempting to answer any question?

it was all sending little johnny to school for a sex change and "they are eating the cats"

but who won?

[yankee87]

20. Fire with fire

Listening to my right wing relatives, they actually believed him. Lie for lie. No more, we go high.

[rampartd]

38. i talk to a lot of them

the plain truth is "fake news"

[yankee87]

21. Respectfully disagree

The truth no longer matters. The entire world saw 1/6, believing their eating the dogs, etc. The only that matter is winning.

[Midnight Writer]

6. They claim the violent rioters were antifa and FBI, but they still want them all pardoned.

Nothing tracks anymore. About half the people in this country have no critical thinking skills. They'll believe any nonsense as long as it is wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross, and reinforces their prejudices.

[MadameButterfly]

10. Try talking to them. They will contradict themselves within a sentence

They praise Trump for things Biden has done, criticize Biden for things Trump has done. They don't know which way is up.

[Midnight Writer]

11. I talk to them every day. My precinct voted 75% Trump.

They are totally incomprehensible.

[Biophilic]

19. "Nothing tracks anymore."

This is what has me the most troubled. You can’t have a conversation because it’s like people are speaking in totally foreign languages. Neither side understands a thing the other side says, either because they don’t want to or can’t hear the words or because what is being said makes no sense in a world of physical reality. There is no middle ground, the center didn’t hold.

[hadEnuf]

33. Fox new and right-wing media are much more entrenched than people have realized

A huge portion of Americans do not think for themselves. They eat up lies and conspiracies with a spoon. They are brainwashed.

Until Trump and the MAGA GOP screw their supporters out of their pants, it will continue. Even then many still won't get it.

[dchill]

12. "What you're seeing is not what's happening." - Donald Trump

Basically, he's been able to sell that. This is quite a stupid country, after all.

[Irish_Dem]

15. I remember being shocked that no help was forthcoming.

That the Capital was being attacked and only a few officers on the scene were on their own.

It was astounding.

Now we are supposed to forget what we saw with our own eyes.

[FakeNoose]

41. By the time the National Guard showed up at the Capitol, the TV cameras had shut down

Most Americans never saw that the "good guys" were finally there, taking over. By then, Chump was already kicked off of Twitter. That's what people don't want to remember.

The Senators and Congressmen did come back to the Chamber - including Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence - and they stayed until the wee hours getting the job done. I normally don't say many good things about Mike Pence, but he was a hero that day.

[Irish_Dem]

42. I guess almost getting kidnapped or killed scared Pence into doing the right thing.

But I hear you. He had decided beforehand to follow the law and constitution.
We have to give him credit.

Amazing that people who just follow the damn law and their oaths are heroes.

[flvegan]

16. They're idiots.

To be clear, if one participated in Jan 6th, believes it didn't happen, believes it was Antifa or an FBI staged counter-op, then one is also a complete and utter moron.

How to counter it? Tough to counter ingrained stupidity coupled with lowered expectations. Welcome to Idiocracy.

[crud]

31. At the end of idiocracy

everyone realized that plants like toilet water. I'm not so sure that these real life idiots are capable of making a similar realization.

[yankee87]

39. You win the internet today

You are exactly right. Maga would use Brando.

[Initech]

17. Yup, I saw a GOP who thought they were entitled to power and the White House.

They thought the White House was their personal property. It isn't. And we can thank the Alex Joneses, Elon Musks, and Sean Hannitys of the country for bringing us into this madness. The propaganda works. It is effective.

[Evolve Dammit]

23. Worked for Hitler and other dictators. Goebells was his Stephen Miller and Faux News "hosts."

[Evolve Dammit]

22. If Pence had been hanged, it would have changed everything. They could not get away with the lies. Those who died

and the hundreds injured in the insurrection (coup) to stop the electoral vote counting are apparently insufficient to make this event real??? Give me a fucking break MAGATs. Peaceful my ass.

[Bristlecone]

43. They would be bending themselves into pretzels to claim it was a suicide

Over his own shame and remorse.

[PortTack]

24. Tomorrow....should be a continuous nonstop play of j/6/2021. Not the floor vote count. Talk about an illegitimate

POTUS…f..k him

[Thunderbeast]

26. Americans...

It was not about egg prices...

It was about restoring white xtian supremacy.

It was about returning to the "great" times of their childhoods when their parents fixed their owies, and they were not accountable any of life's obligations.

Jesus will sort it all out.

Racist deluded simpletons!

[ancianita]

27. Wait. Do you have numbers for claiming "the majority of the country seems to believe [Jan 6] didn't happen"?

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Because the numbers I find don't support that claim.

If you don't have numbers, aren't you promoting a negative stereotype of Americans? Gotta say, that's kinda like makin' stuff up. You can dread the next four years -- many of us do -- but don't let fear create your perspective on reality.

Here's a poll on Jan 6 from a year ago -- first, the general population, the second, the maga population
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-opinion-poll-republican-disapproval-wanes-2024-01-06/





Those are the latest poll numbers I can find. If you have more recent, lower ones to support your claim, by all means post them.

Keep in mind that those numbers sit beside the voting numbers context of 2024.

By the numbers, TCF won 49% of the vote. Not a mandate.
https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2024/electoral-college

Total actual voting age population = 259,454,702 That number is the U.S. voting electorate.

Breaking that down, the total actual voting age population 2024 minus undocumented immigrants (12.5 mill est'd)
and minors ( 74,112,182 mill per https://data.unicef.org/how-many/how-many-children-under-18-are-there-in-the-us/#= 259,454,702 (as of 11/04/24)

Total Registereds as of Nov 5 2024 = 188,364,114
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/number-of-registered-voters-by-state


Of the Registereds, only 155,211,283 voted. Which means that 82% of registereds voted and 18% didn't; so...

overall, 59% of the qualified voter electorate voted, and 41% didn't. The electorate are 75% of the total us population.

Democrats are part of the 77% of Americans that weren't brainwashed in 2020 and they're not brainwashed today.
They won't be brainwashed by 2026, either.

Your claim that "the majority of the country seems to believe [Jan 6] didn't happen" is fearful fantasy.
Jan 6 is a fact of American history and the Congressional Record.

Just because you don't hear Americans or media talking about Jan 6 every day doesn't mean they're being brainwashed.
Don't worry yourself or other Dems by spreading a narrative OP that's not fact based. Don't do that.

Suggestion: Look for the helpers.
https://thefederalnewswire.com/stories/665892188-litigation-coalition-forming-to-confront-trump-administration-policies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Alliance
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/07/10-democratic-thinkers-on-what-the-party-needs-right-now-00187993

[SunSeeker]

37. It doesn't help that HuffPo is running a defeatist headline that Trump "won" the 1/6 propaganda war.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-jan-6-lost-cause_n_67786658e4b03c84a28dacd5

[OldBaldy1701E]

29. "...how do we counter the Reich wing media brainwashing?"

Stop letting them gut education.

Regulate the crap out of corporations and their desire to involve themselves with social issues. A corporation is a legal, abstract entity. It should not have 'human' rights.

Regulate the crap out of capitalism so that income earning is equitable and monopolies of any kind are practically impossible.

Stop with the 'work is life!' philosophy crap. We exist as humans first, not automatons who are here to make a few spoiled nepotism babies richer.

Of course, none of this is going to happen, but that is what needs to happen before we can start to counter the damage done.

[yankee87]

30. We have to win

If we don’t win, nothing you stated will ever happen. In fact, the opposite will happen.

The way our politics is going, winning means totally undo whatever was done by the previous administration if you’re a MAGA.

[OldBaldy1701E]

36. The problem as I see it is...

If we don't start trying to do some of the things I mentioned, we won't win.

Catch-22?

[kimbutgar]

32. It's as if it never happened and only those of us paying attention remember

I never saw one commercial during the election season reminding people of that day.

The MSM whitewashed it for the orange felon.

[taxi]

35. How do we counter the Reich wing media brainwashing?

Let me ask the same question from a different angle. Why would we want to counter the Reich wing media brainwashing?

Discussions broaden our awareness and help us to examine all sorts of approaches. Those approaches run the full gamut from doing nothing to forceful offensives. As a result, we watch and listen, try to be aware of the nonstop changes, and have the ability to tweak our lives in an instant. On the other hand, the mindless masses have no control over their lives, they follow the leader du jour. Inevitably their leaders fall from grace, leaving the mindless masses to scurry in search of a new leader. They do not want to be free thinking individuals. They want to be like the other lemmings, all the other happy lemmings. It disturbs them that the left cannot understand this. They want to be left alone.

There is not a single strategy for a stunning victory, we can take some victories by leading the lemmings toward the cliffs, others by removing barriers that deter their journey to the cliff. We can feed the trolls under the bridges they will have to cross, and we can put up road signs to direct the wolves to their trails and tell them that face eating leopards share their values. What a fool believes he sees.

[Demsrule86]

40. It is unbelievable...

to deny January 6. They saw it.