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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,898 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 04:04 PM Sunday

It's not just Tesla. Vehicles amass huge troves of possibly sensitive data.

Video footage and other data collected by Tesla helped law enforcement quickly piece together how a Cybertruck came to explode outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas on New Year’s Day.

The trove of digital evidence also served as a high-profile demonstration of how much data modern cars collect about their drivers and those around them.

Data privacy experts say the investigation - which has determined that the driver, active-duty U.S. Army soldier Matthew Livelsberger, died by suicide before the blast - highlights how car companies vacuum up reams of data that can clear up mysteries but also be stolen or given to third parties without drivers’ knowledge. There are few regulations controlling how and when law enforcement authorities can access data in cars, and drivers are often unaware of the vast digital trail they leave behind.

“These are panopticons on wheels,” said Albert Fox Cahn, who founded the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project, an advocacy group that argues the volume and precision of data collected can pose civil liberties concerns for people in sensitive situations, like attending protests or going to abortion clinics.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-just-tesla-vehicles-amass-184927090.html

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It's not just Tesla. Vehicles amass huge troves of possibly sensitive data. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sunday OP
All of the safety apps provided by insurance companies for discounts collect personal data dlk Sunday #1
When I get in my car, my Honda tells me where I am supposed to be going. Irish_Dem Sunday #2
This is why all of my vehicles are from the 60's 70's, 80's and 90's n/t gay texan Sunday #3
10000% this Unladen Swallow Sunday #6
Yup. Subpoena the car company to help with geofencing. Igel Sunday #4
I hope I never have to own a car like that. hunter Sunday #5

dlk

(12,489 posts)
1. All of the safety apps provided by insurance companies for discounts collect personal data
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 04:05 PM
Sunday

Who doesn't want to save money, but at what cost?

Irish_Dem

(60,134 posts)
2. When I get in my car, my Honda tells me where I am supposed to be going.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 04:11 PM
Sunday

It has gathered information about my daily trips and times.
And pops up those locations.

Or if a doctor's office or friend has sent me an address with appointment time on my phone it pops up that.

Or if I recently looked up an address on my phone it pops that up.

My car is better organized than I am.

Unladen Swallow

(371 posts)
6. 10000% this
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 06:33 PM
Sunday

2008 Dodge Ram and 2010 Ford Focus here. I'll replace engines and trannies on them until I drop dead. No new cars for me, ever.

Igel

(36,333 posts)
4. Yup. Subpoena the car company to help with geofencing.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 04:35 PM
Sunday

Even if you can't find the person you're after you know where the person's probably returning to.

Don't like that my car probably retains data even if it doesn't upload it. And seriously am considering keeping my phone in a faraday bag much of the time when I'm not at home. (Then again, when I'm at work finding me's a snap so not there.)

hunter

(39,099 posts)
5. I hope I never have to own a car like that.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 04:59 PM
Sunday

Cell phones are also surveillance machines. And "smart" televisions.

Our world could go Big Brother Orwellian very quickly.


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