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Attilatheblond

(4,731 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 08:35 AM Sunday

Signs of Class Warfare: Treatment of & charges against Luigi Mangione vs Dylann Roof

Despite having trouble sleeping of late, due to a mind that won't stop connecting dots, I totally missed this. Behold a comparison regarding who gets charged with terrorism for offing one very greedy bringer of death to others, and who gets lunch from Burger King after killing a group of worshipers at a predominately black church. My bad, I shouldn't have missed this travesty of justice. Glad this website did a comparison of charges against two criminals, considering the ethnic characteristics of the murderer and the status/race of the victims.

https://thedemlabs.org/2025/01/04/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-ceo-murder-brian-thompson-indicted-terrorism-charges-dylann-roof-charleston-church-massacre/]

Luigi Mangione charged for terrorism for killing a CEO. Dylann Roof slaughtered nine worshippers at a Church. Police bought him a burger and there were no charges of terrorism.

Murder is wrong in call cases, but is justice applied equally? Is the killer charged as a terrorist or treated to a burger by the police? Check these Class Warfare Signs.

Who were the victims? Were they black or white? How rich or poor were the victims? What was the motive? How was the accused treated by the police?


CEOs are a special protected class. Black members of a church? Not so much.
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rampartd

(1,024 posts)
4. he is currently awaiting a presidential pardon
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 08:54 AM
Sunday

and a job with the justice dept civil rights division.

trump wants to execute prisoners, but roof is such a good boy, from a good family and so much potential

do i need the sarcasm thingee?

displacedvermoter

(3,333 posts)
5. I said the same sort of thing at the time of the other commutations
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 09:08 AM
Sunday

and one of our legal scholars said I didn't know what I was talking about. And I said we would see, and we will.

rampartd

(1,024 posts)
7. roof won't be on the "day 1 pardon" list with those peaceful tourists
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 09:34 AM
Sunday

but he will slide in at least a commutation (i'm ambivalent enough about death penalty to be all right with that) i'm just hoping he keeps the life sentence alone.

forthemiddle

(1,441 posts)
3. Class Warfare????
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 08:46 AM
Sunday

Because of a burger? Do we know what food Luigi got?

Dylan was convicted of Federal murder and Hate Crimes and received the death penalty.
I can’t see any Class Warfare in this case. I think Hate Crimes are on par with Terrorism in these cases.
Both deserve the ultimate punishment.

Attilatheblond

(4,731 posts)
6. Missed the part about killing ONE person, but a CEO, TERRORISM
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 09:10 AM
Sunday

while murdering 9 BLACK people in a church wasn't terrorism? When the life of one (in a position of authority and wealth) outweighs the lives of 9 who do not hold power over life and death for others, but who happen to be black, THAT, my friend is a pretty glaring sign of Class Warfare.

EX500rider

(11,616 posts)
8. because hate crimes & terrorism are not the same thing
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:37 AM
Sunday

Hate crime:
a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or similar grounds.

The FBI defines terrorism, domestic or international, as the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government or civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives.

LeftInTX

(31,003 posts)
10. Dylann is on death row. What more do you want? You need to understand something about terrorism laws.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:56 AM
Sunday
Luigi is being charged by New York State for terrorism. New York has strange laws and that was the only way the could get him eligible for a life sentence. Otherwise, he gets out in 15 years. Premediated murder is not a charge in New York. They only have murder of law enforcement, sex crimes, felony murder, torture murder or terrorism murder. He didn't kill a cop, he didn't rape anyone, (felony murder might have fit because his gun had a silencer), he didn't torture anyone, so they went with terrorism.

Luigi is charged by the feds with stalking murder. He is not charged by the feds with terrorism.

Nobody is gonna try to give Luigi the death sentence.


Terrorism laws are weird. There is no such thing as a federal domestic terrorism law. The feds only have international terrorism laws.

Renew Deal

(83,180 posts)
9. Luigi was over charged to try to convince us he did something wrong.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:46 AM
Sunday

We all know he did something wrong. I think some people think he did something wrong against another bad person. That's effectively the argument Josh Johnson from the Daily Show made.

I think the terrorism charge might have been a mistake. It leaves room for the jury to acquit.

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