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The Madcap

(778 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:04 PM Jan 4

Essential Goals for a Society (sort of a poll).

Given how divided our country seems to be, I'm curious what the different sides see as the essential goals for our society. By that, I mean those things that we aspire to have or be that are the focus of our actions. I'm not looking for how we get to the goals, but what those goals are. I have two general categories: concrete and abstract. So far, I (a registered Democrat) see the essential goals as:

Concrete

- Food supply
- Shelter
- Water
- Breathable air
- Functional environment
- Health system (could be simple or complex)
- Infrastructure (could be simple or complex)

Abstract

- Education
- Economy sufficient for necessities (not the method of economy)
- Legal framework (to set rules. I'm not saying here what those are)
- Manufacturing framework (to make things needed by the society)
- Arts (creativity, could be as simple as scrawling on rocks)

Are there any categories I am missing that would be considered fundamental? I am interested here in finding the common ground, if it exists, not the methods of getting there. Maybe I'm being too hopeful, but I would think most people would agree that we need the above at least. Any ideas? We have to get to a point in this country where we can agree on something. Otherwise, it's hopeless. So, I figured it would be best to start at the roots.

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Essential Goals for a Society (sort of a poll). (Original Post) The Madcap Jan 4 OP
You forgot the part where the politicians and billionaires suck all the money out of the economy. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #1
They're part of the "how" The Madcap Jan 4 #4
If water is distinguished from "functional environment" Stargleamer Jan 4 #2
Yeah, breatheable air should be on the list. The Madcap Jan 4 #6
Added to the list The Madcap Jan 4 #7
Protection of equality for all. Think. Again. Jan 4 #3
Part of the legal framework The Madcap Jan 4 #5
Access to all of the above Beastly Boy Jan 4 #8
Opportunity. Morbius Jan 4 #9

Irish_Dem

(61,488 posts)
1. You forgot the part where the politicians and billionaires suck all the money out of the economy.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jan 4

Stargleamer

(2,310 posts)
2. If water is distinguished from "functional environment"
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:21 PM
Jan 4

wouldn't air be too?

In any case, some people think that the arts are essential to us, whether they be music, literature, painting, etc.

The Madcap

(778 posts)
6. Yeah, breatheable air should be on the list.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:32 PM
Jan 4

But we could survive for a while with dirty air, mounds of trash, etc. Note that I didn't say "clean" water.

Arts would be abstract. We could survive without them, but we wouldn't be happy.

The Madcap

(778 posts)
5. Part of the legal framework
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jan 4

I think of that as a "how," as there are many out there who don't think that's a worthwhile goal, apparently.

Morbius

(148 posts)
9. Opportunity.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jan 4

The chance for people to excel, to realize their potential. Without opportunity, society stagnates.

Also, people need to have hope, even if that hope is slight. I don't quite know how to express that as a social need, but it's definitely a human need.

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