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cbabe

(4,357 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:05 PM Saturday

Toldyaso #490643: climate-driven sea level rise will overwhelm major oil ports, study shows

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/04/climate-driven-sea-level-rise-set-to-flood-major-oil-ports

‘Ironic’: climate-driven sea level rise will overwhelm major oil ports, study shows

Ports including in Saudi Arabia and the US projected to be seriously damaged by a metre of sea level rise

Damian Carrington Environment editor
Sat 4 Jan 2025 01.00 EST

Rising sea levels driven by the climate crisis will overwhelm many of the world’s biggest oil ports, analysis indicates.

Scientists said the threat was ironic as fossil fuel burning causes global heating. They said reducing emissions by moving to renewable energy would halt global heating and deliver more reliable energy.

Thirteen of the ports with the highest supertanker traffic will be seriously damaged by just 1 metre of sea level rise, the analysis found. The researchers said two low-lying ports in Saudi Arabia – Ras Tanura and Yanbu – were particularly vulnerable. Both are operated by Aramco, the Saudi state oil firm, and 98% of the country’s oil exports leave via these ports.

The oil ports of Houston and Galveston in the US, the world’s biggest oil producer, are also on the list, as are ports in the United Arab Emirates, China, Singapore and the Netherlands.

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Irish_Dem

(60,068 posts)
2. Billionaires made their money destroying the world.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:44 PM
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Once the planet is destroyed, where will they spend their fortune?

Hugin

(34,857 posts)
4. That gap in reasoning has always baffled me...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:01 PM
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In a slightly sooner scenario, Musk replaces all of his workers with H1-b at-will-slaves for lack of a better word, who’s going to buy Mumpswagons? Even Henry Ford saw the fallacy in that plan.

I suppose that’s where fascism comes in. There’s only one car and if you don’t want one, you walk.

I believe this lack of insight comes from a denial of the absolute fact the Earth and everything on and in it is finite. Very finite.

Irish_Dem

(60,068 posts)
11. The addiction to money and power overrides everything else.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:55 PM
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Nothing else matters, like a drug addict.
They will destroy everything to get their drug of choice.

Right people like Musk want power to corner the market on their product.
No competition.

Celerity

(47,022 posts)
3. 1 metre of sea level rise is now inevitable within a century or so and could come as early as 2070 if ice sheets
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:52 PM
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collapse and emissions are not curbed. An even more catastrophic rise of 3 metres is probably inevitable in the next millennium or two and could arrive as soon as the early 2100s.

cbabe

(4,357 posts)
5. Alberta oil town burned. Then they doubled down on more oil exports. Where will
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:14 PM
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they spend their money? To coin a phrase. Snark.

Can’t go live on a tropical island. The islands will all be underwater.

FirstLight

(14,344 posts)
6. Faster than that....
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:23 PM
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ALL the models have been off.. They keep trying to say "by 2100"...when the actuality is that it's gonna happen WAYYY sooner because the feedback loop increases the timing and more feedback etc till it happens in 2035-40 and they scientists say they never thought the models coulld be so agressive.

The planet's systems are so intertwined, and SO large but also SOOOOO fragile that once the tipping point has been reached it cascades into a HUGE change. The AMOC is already collapsing. And the methane deposits etc are being melted in the Tundra. So yeah, sooner than later.

There's also the changes that loss of ice sheets and the weight of the water distribution has on the mantle/crust. Add to that the magnetosphere shifting and we're in for Mr. Toad's Wild Ride

FirstLight

(14,344 posts)
9. Yeah, I think the scientists have always used the LONGEST time duration to quote to the public
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:51 PM
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as a way to avoid panic.

I have only read one article where something happened and the scientists were like "we never thought the EARLIEST model could be true!"

Either way, we're screwn

canetoad

(18,323 posts)
8. A23a is on the move
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:45 PM
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Largest iceberg in the world. Calved from the Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf in 1986 and for 30 years has been grounded and stationary.
Now it has moved past the Antarctic Penisula and is moving towards warmer waters.

Key points:

The enormous iceberg is around 400m tall and weighs nearly a trillion metric tonnes
Satellite images show it is drifting quickly past the northern tip of the Antarctic Peninsula
It is possible A23a could again become grounded at South Georgia Island, which would pose a problem for Antarctica's wildlife

More.... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-05/worlds-largest-iceberg-on-move-antarctica-/103188412

DFW

(56,953 posts)
12. Half of the Netherlands is already under sea level
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:56 PM
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NL already has a Rijkswaterstaat, sort of a “Ministry of Water,” that monitors water levels nationwide. What windmills used to do is pump water out of populated regions and keep it out. The pumping is done by far more sophisticated machinery these days, but the purpose is the same: keep cities like Rotterdam, Amsterdam dry. Rotterdam used to be the world’s busiest port, and I’m sure it’s still among the top ten. NL has nowhere to put seven million displaced Nederlanders, and nor does Belgium or Germany.

cbabe

(4,357 posts)
13. Denmark: Climate Change Miniseries 'Families Like Ours'
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 03:17 PM
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/thomas-vinterberg-climate-change-series-families-like-ours-1235988668/

Thomas Vinterberg on Avoiding “Disaster Film Cliches” in Climate Change Miniseries ‘Families Like Ours’
In the news series from the director of 'Another Round,' rising sea levels force the entire country of Denmark to evacuate, becoming refugees.

BY SCOTT ROXBOROUGH
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SEPTEMBER 1, 2024 1:00AM

More than a decade later, that “thought experiment” led to Families Like Ours. The miniseries, which premieres at the Venice Film Festival before heading to TIFF, imagines a near future where rising sea levels force the government of Denmark to evacuate. The entire country. Turning its six million inhabitants into refugees, forced to seek shelter in whichever countries will have them.

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