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ColinC

(11,098 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:30 AM Jan 2025

2026 Wildly unlikely hypo: Could Angus King run against Susan Collins for her seat as a way of getting rid of her?

If he loses, he's still a senator, but if he wins she gets replaced by a Democrat and King's replacement is chosen by a Democratic governor. She can still run for that seat but for the first time in decades it won't be as an incumbent. 🤔

I'm thinking similarly about Tammy Baldwin against Ron Johnson in WI in 2028...

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2026 Wildly unlikely hypo: Could Angus King run against Susan Collins for her seat as a way of getting rid of her? (Original Post) ColinC Jan 2025 OP
This sounds like a great plan, I have a few "concerns" but only a few..LOL. SheilaAnn Jan 2025 #1
😆 💯 ColinC Jan 2025 #2
I doubt leap-frogging Senate seats would be acceptable to the public bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #3
Based on the last decade, we are at a point where optics dont seem to matter anymore. ColinC Jan 2025 #5
I'm hoping Democrat leadership has considered these scenarios... SKKY Jan 2025 #4
Original thinking such as this can help get us through the bleak years ahead! GreenWave Jan 2025 #6
I like creativity also. Trust_Reality Jan 2025 #8
You sure Baldwin would beat Johnson? displacedvermoter Jan 2025 #7
She might have the best shot out of anybody. Shes beaten equally horrible scoundrels ColinC Jan 2025 #11
If she were defeated by Johnson displacedvermoter Jan 2025 #12
Shes been in the senate forever. Her not running in 2030 is already a decent possibility. ColinC Jan 2025 #15
Agreed displacedvermoter Jan 2025 #16
I can't imagine King going along with such a plan onenote Jan 2025 #9
As I said... its a wildly unlikely hypothetical ColinC Jan 2025 #10
Pass. nt Celerity Jan 2025 #13
Are there no Democrats that could win ? JI7 Jan 2025 #14
Governor Janet Mills has reportedly shown interest ColinC Jan 2025 #19
According to ChatGPT a sitting US Senator cannot run for another Senate seat totodeinhere Jan 2025 #17
Apparently Kent Conrad did it in 1992 in ND ColinC Jan 2025 #18
I know that it is possible to get false information from chat JPT totodeinhere Jan 2025 #20
no worries! :) ColinC Jan 2025 #21
There are a large number of king collins voters dsc Jan 2025 #22
There are worst Republicans to go after Polybius Jan 5 #23

bucolic_frolic

(49,537 posts)
3. I doubt leap-frogging Senate seats would be acceptable to the public
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:37 AM
Jan 2025

and there would be litigation. It would be like a 3rd Presidential term which is to say a way of bending, ignoring, or obliterating the rules.

I think it's a terrible idea, almost treats Senators like some sort of royalty that remains in power when their time is done.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
5. Based on the last decade, we are at a point where optics dont seem to matter anymore.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jan 2025

IMHO the senate should be abolished entirely or absorbed into the House of Reps, if for no other reason but how inequitable it is in representation.

I think unfortunately the Senate is already practically treated as royalty, which is a big reason Collins keeps winning re election despite her unpopularity. If we can't change that dynamic, perhaps we can just take advantage of the loopholes to our benefit? Kinda how Republicans have been doing with judges, scotus, state legislatures, every federal agency board, etc...

SKKY

(12,469 posts)
4. I'm hoping Democrat leadership has considered these scenarios...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jan 2025

....and for whatever reason, decided not to pursue them. But, I'm all for getting rid of Collins and Johnson, so anything that would push that along I'm all for.

displacedvermoter

(3,637 posts)
7. You sure Baldwin would beat Johnson?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:22 PM
Jan 2025

I am not. Johnson is as inept and inarticulate a member of the Senate as anyone I can ever remember in my lifetime, if you are not counting the crowd of idiots now holding seats there. And, yet he continues to win despite his fake elector shenanigans, his traitorous ties to Russia, and the countless lies he gets caught in.

I fear the voters of Wisconsin, or at least a significant number of them, will always vote for him out of muscle memory

On the other hand, it was never a sure thing Baldwin would be reelected this past year, I believe.

By the way, some states have laws requiring office holders to resign from other offices when running. Would that apply here?

Interesting idea, I guess. Just too bad we can't find two younger, equally electable folks from the party at large to defeat two really lousy Senators, namely the stupid Johnson and the cowardly useless Collins. Democratic governors in both states, so I guess we could get some new blood that way.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
11. She might have the best shot out of anybody. Shes beaten equally horrible scoundrels
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 03:12 PM
Jan 2025

But the great thing about this idea is if she lost, it would -at least in the immediate aftermath, have no mathematical consequence and she keeps her seat for another two years anyways.

displacedvermoter

(3,637 posts)
12. If she were defeated by Johnson
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 03:43 PM
Jan 2025

I am willing to bet that she would be defeated two years later. She's guaranteed to be primaried by folks who see her as beatable, certain fund raisers and donors would question whether she was a good risk, the media would call her a loser from day one, as would the GOP who would go after her with another multimillionaire MAGA candidate.

So there is that!

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
15. Shes been in the senate forever. Her not running in 2030 is already a decent possibility.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:09 PM
Jan 2025

Also all of the things you suggest are already not horribly improbable...

onenote

(45,051 posts)
9. I can't imagine King going along with such a plan
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jan 2025

He's 80 years old. He prides himself for being an Independent, even while he caucuses with the Democrats. I can't imagine him participating in a overtly partisan strategy to knock off Collins and install an unelected Democrat in his old seat.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
10. As I said... its a wildly unlikely hypothetical
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jan 2025

Last edited Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)

But perhaps a loophole worth exploiting in another race in the future...

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
19. Governor Janet Mills has reportedly shown interest
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:54 PM
Jan 2025

She would likely be the optimal candidate.

totodeinhere

(13,588 posts)
17. According to ChatGPT a sitting US Senator cannot run for another Senate seat
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jan 2025

while already serving in the Senate. To run for the Collins seat he would have to resign from the Senate first.

dsc

(52,849 posts)
22. There are a large number of king collins voters
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jan 2025

And they would likely vote for her in that case, since that would let them have both

Polybius

(19,626 posts)
23. There are worst Republicans to go after
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:00 AM
Jan 5

Some really bad ones are up for re-election in 2026.

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