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Baitball Blogger

(48,550 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:21 AM Saturday

So, I woke up with an idea this morning. Why Greenland? And then I did some googles.

Basically, I fell asleep last night after reading the suicide note left behind by the Tesla-Trump self imploder and I wondered how prevalent his rantings are among Republicans.

Now, a little anecdote: I have relatives who are old time Republicans and maybe once every few years we meet and actually have civil conversations. So, last year one of them told me that the general (racist) beliefs among the hardcore is that areas where it's cold enough to snow is the last bastion for whites. Yes, that's what he said. Just like they once believed that black football players didn't have the mental acumen to be quarter backs, now they believe that Northern regions are their only white enclaves. Now back to Greenland.

So I was wondering if the Prime Minister, Mute Bourup Egede, had any white supremacist leanings because that would explain this sudden, poorly timed, decision to breakaway from a NATO country in a time when America was about to have a president who has a relationship with Putin. And what I found is, that, no, he doesn't seem to be enamored of Trump's idea. But still, Mute Bourup Egede may be putting his own country in danger because this couldn't possibly be a worse time for him to break up with a country that could protect them from whatever is ailing America.

And then, I came up with the following video which is quite shocking because of its candor. The guy interviewed was very honest about why he voted for Trump. It's because Trump can save the white race and its dominance.

So, if the Democrats get this message out, maybe, just maybe you'll connect with the non-whites who keep voting for him?




https://www.comicsands.com/taylor-huang-trump-white-dispossession
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So, I woke up with an idea this morning. Why Greenland? And then I did some googles. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Saturday OP
Yes, hardcore racists are trump voters, I think everyone knows that... Think. Again. Saturday #1
There's so much disinformation out there. yardwork Saturday #10
That's true... Think. Again. Saturday #19
I think you explained it well. yardwork Saturday #20
Non white drumpf supporters are a varied group biophile Saturday #2
There has been no lack of evidence for people of color to not realize Trump won't protect them. But... dutch777 Saturday #3
I don't believe this is true. travelingthrulife Saturday #16
This is the real "identity politics" nuxvomica Saturday #4
This is why educated, powerful white people get rid of "critical race theory." yardwork Saturday #12
That man who eats like an animal and talks with his mouth full... Hope22 Saturday #5
Agree. I was kinda hoping he was gonna start chocking on his food. Deuxcents Saturday #7
I hope they put some exlax in his food n/t Blaukraut Saturday #9
Egede and his party are Democratic Socialists. Voltaire2 Saturday #6
He needs to wait four years. Baitball Blogger Saturday #11
I rather doubt they care about the insane bluster. Voltaire2 Saturday #14
This is an excellent point and that video - wow! yardwork Saturday #8
The white bloke in the video is Jared Taylor, founder of the white power mag and site American Renaissance, plus the Celerity Saturday #13
Their logical inconsistencies never fail to surprise Arazi Saturday #15
White people fear they'll be treated like they have treated non whites throughout history nini Saturday #17
As we've all said: it wasn't about the eggs. Or inflation. nt CousinIT Saturday #18
Here is the MAJOR contradiction to their little theory: GreenWave Saturday #21

Think. Again.

(19,453 posts)
1. Yes, hardcore racists are trump voters, I think everyone knows that...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:47 AM
Saturday

... the question of why non-whites are also voting for him is tricky, and I think we should just ask them.

But I suspect they are just being as easily fooled by the propaganda as every other rightwinger so they probably won't have any legitimate answers for us to work with, and just telling them what is truth and reality probably won't work.

yardwork

(64,846 posts)
10. There's so much disinformation out there.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:36 AM
Saturday

People believe an incredible combination of things. I've read interviews of people who voted for Trump, and most of them have a mishmash of beliefs, most not based on facts.

Think. Again.

(19,453 posts)
19. That's true...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:44 AM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:12 PM - Edit history (1)

I was surprised to find I agreed with a couple of points the Las Vegas suicide guy wrote in hs last notes.

The problem seems to be they are taking in all this false 'information' and it just settles in their minds as "fact" without any recognition of how it conflicts with all the other actual information they can see all around them. For instance, it's obvious from his many business failures that trump is not a good businessman (running cons and scams is not doing "business" ) and yet they fully believe he is, probably because they once watched a tv show based on the fiction that he is.

I'm sorry I didn't explain that well, but isn't that called "cognitive dissonance"?

biophile

(477 posts)
2. Non white drumpf supporters are a varied group
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:45 AM
Saturday

But one thing that influences all of them is our corrupt RW owned media spewing lies and propaganda. It’s everywhere and all voters hear it - even those of us who tend to silo in DU and left leaning blogs. So no matter what your reasons might be- misogyny, macho culture, high prices, anti immigrant, abortion, trans fear, etc. - the RW media and the effective Republican commercials- you hear something that triggers you.
The thing that drives this RW media is my second thought about why people vote against their interests and that is big dark money influencing and supporting media, social media, and conservative think tanks. They just seriously outspend progressives because they can.

dutch777

(3,634 posts)
3. There has been no lack of evidence for people of color to not realize Trump won't protect them. But...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:02 AM
Saturday

...they often face racism and are maybe are more worried about inflation that keeps them working 2 or 3 jobs and still not get ahead than they are about racism. We assume people miss what Trump is. I think they just value things differently and in their math, as bad a he is, we Dems sat on our hands, dismissed their concerns as non-issues and ran on an agenda that did not have THEIR concerns as top priority. He voiced the concerns better, probably won't really address them meaningfully, but they went for him anyway out of spite or wishful thinking or self delusion, it doesn't matter. But their vote mattered.

travelingthrulife

(1,027 posts)
16. I don't believe this is true.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:32 AM
Saturday

"...we Dems sat on our hands, dismissed their concerns as non-issues and ran on an agenda that did not have THEIR concerns as top priority."

yardwork

(64,846 posts)
12. This is why educated, powerful white people get rid of "critical race theory."
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:46 AM
Saturday

What they really want is for all schools to go back to teaching that "slaves were happy and Indians needed to be killed."

Hope22

(3,167 posts)
5. That man who eats like an animal and talks with his mouth full...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:20 AM
Saturday

Has amnesia regarding the Indigenous people already living here when his people stole the land. Eventually the white folk are going to have to understand that black, brown and white peoples having babies delute their ‘white purity’. They can not stop this unless they build walls and keep certified white folks behind them for all of time but even that is too late. Even this guy’s DNA may already be tainted. This man is really a disgusting example of any race!

Voltaire2

(14,957 posts)
6. Egede and his party are Democratic Socialists.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:31 AM
Saturday

They are not aligned with fascist political parties like the Republican Party. They are pushing for an independence referendum. The colonial history of Danish relations with Inuit people has not been good.

An independent Greenland would likely need to trade its Arctic Ocean resource rights for economic stability. That in turn would attract a lot of bad actors from the global oligopoly.

Baitball Blogger

(48,550 posts)
11. He needs to wait four years.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:38 AM
Saturday

Trump now has Elon Musk's money and if they think they need a place to colonize to grow their tribe, Greenland is vulnerable.

For white supremacists it would be returning to the Motherland. Anywhere in Europe is a wet dream for them.

Celerity

(47,022 posts)
13. The white bloke in the video is Jared Taylor, founder of the white power mag and site American Renaissance, plus the
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:55 AM
Saturday

New Century Foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Taylor

Samuel Jared Taylor (born September 15, 1951) is an American white supremacist and editor of American Renaissance, an online magazine espousing such opinions, which was founded by Taylor in 1990. He is also the president of American Renaissance's parent organization, New Century Foundation, through which many of his books have been published. He is a former member of the advisory board of The Occidental Quarterly and a former director of the National Policy Institute, a Virginia-based white nationalist think tank. He is also a board member and spokesperson of the Council of Conservative Citizens. Taylor and many of his affiliated organizations are accused of promoting racist ideologies by civil rights groups, news media, and academics studying racism in the United States.

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Taylor is a proponent of scientific racism and voluntary racial segregation. Taylor also asserts that there are racial differences in intelligence among the various ethno-racial groups across the world. Taylor argues that Blacks are generally less intelligent than Hispanics, while Hispanics are generally less intelligent than whites, and whites are generally less intelligent than East Asians: "I think Asians are objectively superior to Whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society. This doesn't mean that I want America to become Asian. I think every people has a right to be itself, and this becomes clear whether we're talking about Irian Jaya or Tibet, for that matter". Taylor describes himself as an advocate for white interests. He states that his publication, American Renaissance, was founded to provide a voice for such concerns, and argues that its work is analogous to other groups that advocate for ethnic or racial interests. American Renaissance, however, has been described as a white supremacist publication and a "forum for writers disparaging the abilities of minorities". In the journal in 2005, he stated, "Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western civilization – any kind of civilization – disappears." A 2005 feature in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette described Taylor as "a racist in the guise of expert".

Taylor presents his segregationist project as based on civil liberties and freedom of association, and has described government-mandated segregation as morally unjust. He believes that all anti-discrimination laws "from the Civil Rights Act of 1964 onward" are an unacceptable expansion of federal power. Taylor also opposes anti-miscegenation laws as impinging on the freedom of association of private citizens. Taylor believes that the multi-racial American society is "doomed to failure", and that non-white groups should not constitute a significant part of the American population, especially Hispanics, Africans, Afro-Caribbeans and Middle Easterners, although he also includes Northern Asians, whom he holds in high regard. He thus supports immigration policies that would favor white immigrants over other groups. Taylor has said: "Whites deserve a homeland," and when questioned about the US immigration laws passed in 1965, under the Hart-Celler Act, said that "Whites are making a terrible mistake by setting in motion forces that will reduce them to a minority." Taylor supports the white genocide conspiracy theory, and has hosted the Suidlanders on his AmRen podcast to discuss the topic, while encouraging donations to the South African organization. He has recommended Jean Raspail's The Camp of the Saints to his followers.

Attitude towards antisemitism

Taylor welcomes Jews to his organization and views American Jews as potential powerful allies. While several speakers of Jewish descent have participated in American Renaissance conventions, he has never sought to either welcome or expel anti-Semitic voices. This position has sparked tensions with far-right anti-Semitic organizations claiming that Jews are infiltrating their movements. In 2006, a clash erupted at one convention between anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist David Duke and Michael H. Hart, a Jewish astrophysicist sharing many of Taylor's ideas. The Forward reported that Taylor "has been trying to de-Nazify the movement and draw the white nationalist circle wider to include Jews of European descent. But to many on the far right, taking the Jew-hatred out of white nationalism is like taking the Christ out of Christmas—a sacrilege." The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) comments that Taylor is unusual among the radical right in "his lack of anti-Semitism." Scholar Elizabeth Bryant Morgenstern states that "unlike many other white supremacists, Taylor is not anti-Semitic, and in fact encourages Jews to join his fight. ... however many within the white supremacist/anti-immigration movement disagree with Taylor ... and he has been under tremendous pressure to break ties with the Jewish community."

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Arazi

(7,122 posts)
15. Their logical inconsistencies never fail to surprise
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:32 AM
Saturday
So, last year one of them told me that the general (racist) beliefs among the hardcore is that areas where it's cold enough to snow is the last bastion for whites”


Try to square that with their insane hatred of Chicago, NYC, Detroit, Somali enclaves in MN, huge Native American reservations in northern states like South Dakota and WI etc…

It’s both cracking me up and making me shake my head in disbelief.

Obviously they only mean snowy places totally devoid of any POC but still…

nini

(16,756 posts)
17. White people fear they'll be treated like they have treated non whites throughout history
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:34 AM
Saturday

Guys like the one in the video would deserve it.

GreenWave

(9,543 posts)
21. Here is the MAJOR contradiction to their little theory:
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:18 AM
Saturday

China is coveting Siberia!

You find Asians in any inhabitable clime on Earth!

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