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onecaliberal

(36,447 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:53 PM Friday

This is the bottom line.

I'm so tired of being told, "We disagree politically, but that doesn't mean we can't be friends!" Dude, if your political opinion is that children shouldn't be fed, that the poor shouldn't be housed, that the sick shouldn't be cared for, that women shouldn't control their bodies, that Americans can't marry who they love, or that certain people shouldn't exist...
Yes, that most definitely means that we can't be friends.

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This is the bottom line. (Original Post) onecaliberal Friday OP
Precisely. 3catwoman3 Friday #1
Absolutely! SheltieLover Friday #2
Especially if they are dishonest and cheat. Chin music Friday #3
Right there with ya!! Ferrets are Cool Friday #4
Exactly. NoMoreRepugs Friday #5
YES AGREE! HooksJan Friday #6
Same with us. One of our children and my grandkids. onecaliberal Saturday #17
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #42
Bravo Faux pas Friday #7
K&R spanone Friday #8
Exactly. chowmama Friday #9
THANK YOU Skittles Friday #10
Well said cate94 Friday #11
I do not befriend psychopaths or enablers there of. Bluethroughu Friday #12
Right on! Wifes husband Saturday #13
Politics should not be aboiut setting the end goal The Madcap Saturday #14
Been practicing that creed since 2016. hamsterjill Saturday #15
Yes and more 👏🏻 Meowmee Saturday #16
There are a lot of threads PennRalphie Saturday #18
It is helpful Cirsium Saturday #19
I already ended the friendships. But thanks for acting like you know me. onecaliberal Saturday #23
The point of telling everyone is? PennRalphie Saturday #33
Sure, Jan. onecaliberal Saturday #34
What is your point? Quiet Em Saturday #36
I've clearly made my point PennRalphie Saturday #39
Yeah, you sure did. Quiet Em Saturday #40
This is a discussion forum. progressoid Saturday #43
Most of them are clueless about reality Tweedy Saturday #20
Good luck with that. They own ALL media these people watch/listen to. onecaliberal Saturday #25
The lie machine does not have me Tweedy Saturday #27
I am FAR from silent. I just don't participate in propaganda and willful ignorance. onecaliberal Saturday #28
I don't either Tweedy Saturday #30
Again. Please don't assume you know where I'm talking. I am talking and more than that reading ALOT. onecaliberal Saturday #35
Yup. Well stated. All done Evolve Dammit Saturday #21
Nails it. republianmushroom Saturday #22
Yup. Quiet Em Saturday #24
For sure I can't be friends with someone who worships an evil dangerous child of Satan in the 🍊💩 kimbutgar Saturday #26
I agree 👍 TommieMommy Saturday #29
It certainly does mean we couldn't be friends. patphil Saturday #31
I turned my back on a 25 year friendship this past election... EarthFirst Saturday #32
So you'll never be able to teach him anything. PennRalphie Saturday #37
Women with dead relatives and friends for the crime of pregnancy will teach a lot of people. onecaliberal Saturday #44
This bdamomma Saturday #38
Cruelty is their goal. Not just the means. usonian Saturday #41

HooksJan

(1 post)
6. YES AGREE!
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:27 PM
Friday

I've had to disown virtually my entire family and social life because most of them right moderate-conservative cultists.

I AM NOT PUTTING UP WITH CULTISTS

Skittles

(160,529 posts)
10. THANK YOU
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:32 PM
Friday

and spare me the THERE ARE GOOD CONSERVATIVES - if you believe in such utter shit, NO YOU ARE NOT A GOOD PERSON

Bluethroughu

(6,104 posts)
12. I do not befriend psychopaths or enablers there of.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:39 PM
Friday

I've tried to find common ground, but they are at the wave and have a nice day territory now.

I can not handle the level of BS.

The Madcap

(678 posts)
14. Politics should not be aboiut setting the end goal
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:54 AM
Saturday

But about how we get there. The end goals should be obvious: less suffering, better health, education, strong economy, etc. Right now, it seems the end goals are disputed, which to me seems to be the root of the problem.

hamsterjill

(15,546 posts)
15. Been practicing that creed since 2016.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:59 AM
Saturday

I live in Texas and therefore, I am sometimes forced to deal with conservatives in my job and in consumer businesses. But I do not have to be friends with them.

I simply deserve better.

PennRalphie

(342 posts)
18. There are a lot of threads
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:52 AM
Saturday

About why family has been disowned or life long friendships have been ended. It’s politics. Oh, I know the reasons stated are always “they believe” this or that.

If you are certain that you’re so correct in ending friendships, why defend the reasons? Just end the friendships, disown the family, stop talking to neighbors. There’s no defense needed. Just stop doing it.

Does announcing the reasons why you’ve ended friendships need an explanation? No. They probably feel the same. I don’t understand the need for announcing it.

onecaliberal

(36,447 posts)
23. I already ended the friendships. But thanks for acting like you know me.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:05 PM
Saturday

Also if you read the post, you know why I made it. /end

PennRalphie

(342 posts)
33. The point of telling everyone is?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:55 PM
Saturday

Is it a badge of honor to tell strangers that you’ve ended friendships? I really don’t get it.

It must be totally and completely exhausting to live a life just waiting to hear a friend or family member say something that will cause you to announce you’re ending their friendship. Exhausting.

Tweedy

(1,231 posts)
20. Most of them are clueless about reality
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 04:55 PM
Saturday

They truly believe that millions of lies spinning them up and making them despise things our ancestors shed the most blood, sweat and tears to gain for their descendants

Public education

This is an information war. Reality is on our side. That makes absolutely no difference if the people raging over nonsense think the nonsense is real. Some of these fake ragers are highly educated too. Disinformation is entering every home everywhere.

If we want to make it through the next four years of kakistocracy we have to spread reality to everyone we can find. We also need to find a way to spread the truth so those caught up in the GOP’s web of lies hear it so maybe one day they can admit (even if the admission is only internal) that they have been utterly duped. I think this is our best chance.

onecaliberal

(36,447 posts)
25. Good luck with that. They own ALL media these people watch/listen to.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:08 PM
Saturday

I need my energy to survive for the handful in my fam with me and for women and the least of us. You know, the thing Christian’s SAY, but the things people like me DO.

Tweedy

(1,231 posts)
27. The lie machine does not have me
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:13 PM
Saturday

It does not have you. It does not have millions of us. Don’t let the lie machine lie you into silencing yourself.

Tweedy

(1,231 posts)
30. I don't either
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:20 PM
Saturday

Although the gop frame is so omnipresent, I might unconsciously on occasion.

Do not participate in the delusions. Participate in dispelling them. That is all I am saying.

onecaliberal

(36,447 posts)
35. Again. Please don't assume you know where I'm talking. I am talking and more than that reading ALOT.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:02 PM
Saturday

Quiet Em

(1,285 posts)
24. Yup.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:07 PM
Saturday

I have no interest in entertaining these sick, cruel, deplorables.

Basic human decency is not up for debate.

kimbutgar

(23,683 posts)
26. For sure I can't be friends with someone who worships an evil dangerous child of Satan in the 🍊💩
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:10 PM
Saturday

patphil

(7,167 posts)
31. It certainly does mean we couldn't be friends.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:36 PM
Saturday

Politics aren't just politics any more. If you support the project 2025 agenda, and just voted for Trump for the 3rd time, you couldn't possibly be a friend of mine.

EarthFirst

(3,211 posts)
32. I turned my back on a 25 year friendship this past election...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:39 PM
Saturday

…it pained me dearly to surrender our past fellowship in music; the love of the outdoors and through trials and tribulations related to relationships and health.

His cavalier nonsense as he descended into full MAGA was far too much to handle any longer; and his conversations eventually soured into deeply hateful perjoratives.

There is no effort to provide comfort to those who refuse others dignity and respect.

It’s painful; but honest and truthful.



PennRalphie

(342 posts)
37. So you'll never be able to teach him anything.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:06 PM
Saturday

Everyone who claims to have ended friendships, disowned family, have zero chance of those people ever learning from them. They’ve most likely ended their friendship with you, too. The families you’ve disowned have done the same.

Who are you going to teach? You are not speaking to any of them. You’re going to educate random trump voters? The same people many here claim to slam the door on if they’re walking out before them.

Are you sure this is a great strategy for 26 and 28? Hey we’re no longer talking to you but we’re going to teach you. We’ve disowned you but here are facts. I’m sure that’s going to go over very well.

onecaliberal

(36,447 posts)
44. Women with dead relatives and friends for the crime of pregnancy will teach a lot of people.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:25 PM
Saturday

And many, many more will learn the hard way.
My question is, what was stopping them from learning? Or you from teaching them before now? What was stopping anyone? Aside from the fact that they are impervious to facts.
Women are dying right now today. Leading cause of death for children is guns. That’s where my energy will be focused. Not on lost fucking causes. I’m done with that, maybe the patron saint can take over.

bdamomma

(66,781 posts)
38. This
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:22 PM
Saturday

bi-partisan idea, is not working and we all know from past situations the felon's regime never supported any bills that were for the people, just for the filthy oligarchs and their donors.



usonian

(14,894 posts)
41. Cruelty is their goal. Not just the means.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:05 PM
Saturday

They should try it on themselves to see how it feels.

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