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onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:53 PM Jan 3

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) onecaliberal Jan 3 OP
Precisely. 3catwoman3 Jan 3 #1
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 4 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 4 #3
Right there with ya!! Ferrets are Cool Jan 4 #4
Exactly. NoMoreRepugs Jan 4 #5
YES AGREE! HooksJan Jan 4 #6
Same with us. One of our children and my grandkids. onecaliberal Jan 4 #17
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 4 #42
Bravo Faux pas Jan 4 #7
K&R spanone Jan 4 #8
Exactly. chowmama Jan 4 #9
THANK YOU Skittles Jan 4 #10
Well said cate94 Jan 4 #11
I do not befriend psychopaths or enablers there of. Bluethroughu Jan 4 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 4 #13
Politics should not be aboiut setting the end goal The Madcap Jan 4 #14
Been practicing that creed since 2016. hamsterjill Jan 4 #15
Yes and more 👏🏻 Meowmee Jan 4 #16
There are a lot of threads PennRalphie Jan 4 #18
It is helpful Cirsium Jan 4 #19
I already ended the friendships. But thanks for acting like you know me. onecaliberal Jan 4 #23
The point of telling everyone is? PennRalphie Jan 4 #33
Sure, Jan. onecaliberal Jan 4 #34
What is your point? Quiet Em Jan 4 #36
I've clearly made my point PennRalphie Jan 4 #39
Yeah, you sure did. Quiet Em Jan 4 #40
This is a discussion forum. progressoid Jan 4 #43
Most of them are clueless about reality Tweedy Jan 4 #20
Good luck with that. They own ALL media these people watch/listen to. onecaliberal Jan 4 #25
The lie machine does not have me Tweedy Jan 4 #27
I am FAR from silent. I just don't participate in propaganda and willful ignorance. onecaliberal Jan 4 #28
I don't either Tweedy Jan 4 #30
Again. Please don't assume you know where I'm talking. I am talking and more than that reading ALOT. onecaliberal Jan 4 #35
Yup. Well stated. All done Evolve Dammit Jan 4 #21
Nails it. republianmushroom Jan 4 #22
Yup. Quiet Em Jan 4 #24
For sure I can't be friends with someone who worships an evil dangerous child of Satan in the 🍊💩 kimbutgar Jan 4 #26
I agree 👍 TommieMommy Jan 4 #29
It certainly does mean we couldn't be friends. patphil Jan 4 #31
I turned my back on a 25 year friendship this past election... EarthFirst Jan 4 #32
So you'll never be able to teach him anything. PennRalphie Jan 4 #37
Women with dead relatives and friends for the crime of pregnancy will teach a lot of people. onecaliberal Jan 4 #44
This bdamomma Jan 4 #38
Cruelty is their goal. Not just the means. usonian Jan 4 #41

3catwoman3

(26,455 posts)
1. Precisely.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:56 PM
Jan 3

Spot on summary of the essential differences.

SheltieLover

(65,734 posts)
2. Absolutely!
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:05 AM
Jan 4


Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Ferrets are Cool

(22,104 posts)
4. Right there with ya!!
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:22 AM
Jan 4

NoMoreRepugs

(11,138 posts)
5. Exactly.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:26 AM
Jan 4
 

HooksJan

(3 posts)
6. YES AGREE!
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:27 AM
Jan 4

I've had to disown virtually my entire family and social life because most of them right moderate-conservative cultists.

I AM NOT PUTTING UP WITH CULTISTS

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
17. Same with us. One of our children and my grandkids.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:11 AM
Jan 4

I can’t stomach it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(160,884 posts)
42. Welcome to DU
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:46 PM
Jan 4

Faux pas

(15,592 posts)
7. Bravo
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:27 AM
Jan 4

spanone

(138,601 posts)
8. K&R
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:28 AM
Jan 4

chowmama

(685 posts)
9. Exactly.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:28 AM
Jan 4

There are lines you cannot cross. This is one of them.

Skittles

(163,062 posts)
10. THANK YOU
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:32 AM
Jan 4

and spare me the THERE ARE GOOD CONSERVATIVES - if you believe in such utter shit, NO YOU ARE NOT A GOOD PERSON

cate94

(2,944 posts)
11. Well said
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:37 AM
Jan 4

Agree completely

Bluethroughu

(7,086 posts)
12. I do not befriend psychopaths or enablers there of.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:39 AM
Jan 4

I've tried to find common ground, but they are at the wave and have a nice day territory now.

I can not handle the level of BS.

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

The Madcap

(1,074 posts)
14. Politics should not be aboiut setting the end goal
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:54 AM
Jan 4

But about how we get there. The end goals should be obvious: less suffering, better health, education, strong economy, etc. Right now, it seems the end goals are disputed, which to me seems to be the root of the problem.

hamsterjill

(15,730 posts)
15. Been practicing that creed since 2016.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:59 AM
Jan 4

I live in Texas and therefore, I am sometimes forced to deal with conservatives in my job and in consumer businesses. But I do not have to be friends with them.

I simply deserve better.

Meowmee

(8,207 posts)
16. Yes and more 👏🏻
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:09 AM
Jan 4

PennRalphie

(406 posts)
18. There are a lot of threads
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jan 4

About why family has been disowned or life long friendships have been ended. It’s politics. Oh, I know the reasons stated are always “they believe” this or that.

If you are certain that you’re so correct in ending friendships, why defend the reasons? Just end the friendships, disown the family, stop talking to neighbors. There’s no defense needed. Just stop doing it.

Does announcing the reasons why you’ve ended friendships need an explanation? No. They probably feel the same. I don’t understand the need for announcing it.

Cirsium

(2,162 posts)
19. It is helpful
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jan 4

It is helpful to others.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
23. I already ended the friendships. But thanks for acting like you know me.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jan 4

Also if you read the post, you know why I made it. /end

PennRalphie

(406 posts)
33. The point of telling everyone is?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jan 4

Is it a badge of honor to tell strangers that you’ve ended friendships? I really don’t get it.

It must be totally and completely exhausting to live a life just waiting to hear a friend or family member say something that will cause you to announce you’re ending their friendship. Exhausting.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
34. Sure, Jan.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jan 4

Quiet Em

(1,740 posts)
36. What is your point?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:05 PM
Jan 4

The OP was pretty self explanatory.

PennRalphie

(406 posts)
39. I've clearly made my point
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jan 4

Quiet Em

(1,740 posts)
40. Yeah, you sure did.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:27 PM
Jan 4

progressoid

(51,185 posts)
43. This is a discussion forum.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:58 PM
Jan 4

People discuss.

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
20. Most of them are clueless about reality
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jan 4

They truly believe that millions of lies spinning them up and making them despise things our ancestors shed the most blood, sweat and tears to gain for their descendants

Public education

This is an information war. Reality is on our side. That makes absolutely no difference if the people raging over nonsense think the nonsense is real. Some of these fake ragers are highly educated too. Disinformation is entering every home everywhere.

If we want to make it through the next four years of kakistocracy we have to spread reality to everyone we can find. We also need to find a way to spread the truth so those caught up in the GOP’s web of lies hear it so maybe one day they can admit (even if the admission is only internal) that they have been utterly duped. I think this is our best chance.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
25. Good luck with that. They own ALL media these people watch/listen to.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:08 PM
Jan 4

I need my energy to survive for the handful in my fam with me and for women and the least of us. You know, the thing Christian’s SAY, but the things people like me DO.

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
27. The lie machine does not have me
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:13 PM
Jan 4

It does not have you. It does not have millions of us. Don’t let the lie machine lie you into silencing yourself.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
28. I am FAR from silent. I just don't participate in propaganda and willful ignorance.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:15 PM
Jan 4

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
30. I don't either
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:20 PM
Jan 4

Although the gop frame is so omnipresent, I might unconsciously on occasion.

Do not participate in the delusions. Participate in dispelling them. That is all I am saying.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
35. Again. Please don't assume you know where I'm talking. I am talking and more than that reading ALOT.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jan 4

Evolve Dammit

(20,429 posts)
21. Yup. Well stated. All done
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jan 4

republianmushroom

(19,279 posts)
22. Nails it.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:02 PM
Jan 4

Quiet Em

(1,740 posts)
24. Yup.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jan 4

I have no interest in entertaining these sick, cruel, deplorables.

Basic human decency is not up for debate.

kimbutgar

(24,673 posts)
26. For sure I can't be friends with someone who worships an evil dangerous child of Satan in the 🍊💩
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:10 PM
Jan 4

TommieMommy

(1,738 posts)
29. I agree 👍
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:15 PM
Jan 4

patphil

(7,600 posts)
31. It certainly does mean we couldn't be friends.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jan 4

Politics aren't just politics any more. If you support the project 2025 agenda, and just voted for Trump for the 3rd time, you couldn't possibly be a friend of mine.

EarthFirst

(3,580 posts)
32. I turned my back on a 25 year friendship this past election...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jan 4

…it pained me dearly to surrender our past fellowship in music; the love of the outdoors and through trials and tribulations related to relationships and health.

His cavalier nonsense as he descended into full MAGA was far too much to handle any longer; and his conversations eventually soured into deeply hateful perjoratives.

There is no effort to provide comfort to those who refuse others dignity and respect.

It’s painful; but honest and truthful.



PennRalphie

(406 posts)
37. So you'll never be able to teach him anything.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jan 4

Everyone who claims to have ended friendships, disowned family, have zero chance of those people ever learning from them. They’ve most likely ended their friendship with you, too. The families you’ve disowned have done the same.

Who are you going to teach? You are not speaking to any of them. You’re going to educate random trump voters? The same people many here claim to slam the door on if they’re walking out before them.

Are you sure this is a great strategy for 26 and 28? Hey we’re no longer talking to you but we’re going to teach you. We’ve disowned you but here are facts. I’m sure that’s going to go over very well.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
44. Women with dead relatives and friends for the crime of pregnancy will teach a lot of people.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jan 4

And many, many more will learn the hard way.
My question is, what was stopping them from learning? Or you from teaching them before now? What was stopping anyone? Aside from the fact that they are impervious to facts.
Women are dying right now today. Leading cause of death for children is guns. That’s where my energy will be focused. Not on lost fucking causes. I’m done with that, maybe the patron saint can take over.

bdamomma

(67,847 posts)
38. This
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jan 4

bi-partisan idea, is not working and we all know from past situations the felon's regime never supported any bills that were for the people, just for the filthy oligarchs and their donors.



usonian

(16,849 posts)
41. Cruelty is their goal. Not just the means.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jan 4

They should try it on themselves to see how it feels.

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