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3catwoman3
(26,455 posts)Spot on summary of the essential differences.
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Ferrets are Cool
(22,104 posts)
HooksJan
(3 posts)I've had to disown virtually my entire family and social life because most of them right moderate-conservative cultists.
I AM NOT PUTTING UP WITH CULTISTS
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)I cant stomach it.
LetMyPeopleVote
(160,884 posts)chowmama
(685 posts)There are lines you cannot cross. This is one of them.
Skittles
(163,062 posts)and spare me the THERE ARE GOOD CONSERVATIVES - if you believe in such utter shit, NO YOU ARE NOT A GOOD PERSON
cate94
(2,944 posts)Agree completely
Bluethroughu
(7,086 posts)I've tried to find common ground, but they are at the wave and have a nice day territory now.
I can not handle the level of BS.
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The Madcap
(1,074 posts)But about how we get there. The end goals should be obvious: less suffering, better health, education, strong economy, etc. Right now, it seems the end goals are disputed, which to me seems to be the root of the problem.
hamsterjill
(15,730 posts)I live in Texas and therefore, I am sometimes forced to deal with conservatives in my job and in consumer businesses. But I do not have to be friends with them.
I simply deserve better.
PennRalphie
(406 posts)About why family has been disowned or life long friendships have been ended. Its politics. Oh, I know the reasons stated are always they believe this or that.
If you are certain that youre so correct in ending friendships, why defend the reasons? Just end the friendships, disown the family, stop talking to neighbors. Theres no defense needed. Just stop doing it.
Does announcing the reasons why youve ended friendships need an explanation? No. They probably feel the same. I dont understand the need for announcing it.
Cirsium
(2,162 posts)It is helpful to others.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Also if you read the post, you know why I made it. /end
PennRalphie
(406 posts)Is it a badge of honor to tell strangers that youve ended friendships? I really dont get it.
It must be totally and completely exhausting to live a life just waiting to hear a friend or family member say something that will cause you to announce youre ending their friendship. Exhausting.
Quiet Em
(1,740 posts)The OP was pretty self explanatory.
PennRalphie
(406 posts)Quiet Em
(1,740 posts)progressoid
(51,185 posts)People discuss.
Tweedy
(1,284 posts)They truly believe that millions of lies spinning them up and making them despise things our ancestors shed the most blood, sweat and tears to gain for their descendants
Public education
This is an information war. Reality is on our side. That makes absolutely no difference if the people raging over nonsense think the nonsense is real. Some of these fake ragers are highly educated too. Disinformation is entering every home everywhere.
If we want to make it through the next four years of kakistocracy we have to spread reality to everyone we can find. We also need to find a way to spread the truth so those caught up in the GOPs web of lies hear it so maybe one day they can admit (even if the admission is only internal) that they have been utterly duped. I think this is our best chance.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)I need my energy to survive for the handful in my fam with me and for women and the least of us. You know, the thing Christians SAY, but the things people like me DO.
Tweedy
(1,284 posts)It does not have you. It does not have millions of us. Dont let the lie machine lie you into silencing yourself.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Tweedy
(1,284 posts)Although the gop frame is so omnipresent, I might unconsciously on occasion.
Do not participate in the delusions. Participate in dispelling them. That is all I am saying.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Evolve Dammit
(20,429 posts)republianmushroom
(19,279 posts)Quiet Em
(1,740 posts)I have no interest in entertaining these sick, cruel, deplorables.
Basic human decency is not up for debate.
kimbutgar
(24,673 posts)patphil
(7,600 posts)Politics aren't just politics any more. If you support the project 2025 agenda, and just voted for Trump for the 3rd time, you couldn't possibly be a friend of mine.
EarthFirst
(3,580 posts)
it pained me dearly to surrender our past fellowship in music; the love of the outdoors and through trials and tribulations related to relationships and health.
His cavalier nonsense as he descended into full MAGA was far too much to handle any longer; and his conversations eventually soured into deeply hateful perjoratives.
There is no effort to provide comfort to those who refuse others dignity and respect.
Its painful; but honest and truthful.
PennRalphie
(406 posts)Everyone who claims to have ended friendships, disowned family, have zero chance of those people ever learning from them. Theyve most likely ended their friendship with you, too. The families youve disowned have done the same.
Who are you going to teach? You are not speaking to any of them. Youre going to educate random trump voters? The same people many here claim to slam the door on if theyre walking out before them.
Are you sure this is a great strategy for 26 and 28? Hey were no longer talking to you but were going to teach you. Weve disowned you but here are facts. Im sure thats going to go over very well.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)And many, many more will learn the hard way.
My question is, what was stopping them from learning? Or you from teaching them before now? What was stopping anyone? Aside from the fact that they are impervious to facts.
Women are dying right now today. Leading cause of death for children is guns. Thats where my energy will be focused. Not on lost fucking causes. Im done with that, maybe the patron saint can take over.
bdamomma
(67,847 posts)bi-partisan idea, is not working and we all know from past situations the felon's regime never supported any bills that were for the people, just for the filthy oligarchs and their donors.
usonian
(16,849 posts)They should try it on themselves to see how it feels.