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onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:53 PM Jan 2025

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) onecaliberal Jan 2025 OP
Precisely. 3catwoman3 Jan 2025 #1
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 2025 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2025 #3
Right there with ya!! Ferrets are Cool Jan 2025 #4
Exactly. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2025 #5
YES AGREE! HooksJan Jan 2025 #6
Same with us. One of our children and my grandkids. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #17
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #42
Bravo Faux pas Jan 2025 #7
K&R spanone Jan 2025 #8
Exactly. chowmama Jan 2025 #9
THANK YOU Skittles Jan 2025 #10
Well said cate94 Jan 2025 #11
I do not befriend psychopaths or enablers there of. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 2025 #13
Politics should not be aboiut setting the end goal The Madcap Jan 2025 #14
Been practicing that creed since 2016. hamsterjill Jan 2025 #15
Yes and more 👏🏻 Meowmee Jan 2025 #16
There are a lot of threads PennRalphie Jan 2025 #18
It is helpful Cirsium Jan 2025 #19
I already ended the friendships. But thanks for acting like you know me. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #23
The point of telling everyone is? PennRalphie Jan 2025 #33
Sure, Jan. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #34
What is your point? Quiet Em Jan 2025 #36
I've clearly made my point PennRalphie Jan 2025 #39
Yeah, you sure did. Quiet Em Jan 2025 #40
This is a discussion forum. progressoid Jan 2025 #43
Most of them are clueless about reality Tweedy Jan 2025 #20
Good luck with that. They own ALL media these people watch/listen to. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #25
The lie machine does not have me Tweedy Jan 2025 #27
I am FAR from silent. I just don't participate in propaganda and willful ignorance. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #28
I don't either Tweedy Jan 2025 #30
Again. Please don't assume you know where I'm talking. I am talking and more than that reading ALOT. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #35
Yup. Well stated. All done Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #21
Nails it. republianmushroom Jan 2025 #22
Yup. Quiet Em Jan 2025 #24
For sure I can't be friends with someone who worships an evil dangerous child of Satan in the 🍊💩 kimbutgar Jan 2025 #26
I agree 👍 TommieMommy Jan 2025 #29
It certainly does mean we couldn't be friends. patphil Jan 2025 #31
I turned my back on a 25 year friendship this past election... EarthFirst Jan 2025 #32
So you'll never be able to teach him anything. PennRalphie Jan 2025 #37
Women with dead relatives and friends for the crime of pregnancy will teach a lot of people. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #44
This bdamomma Jan 2025 #38
Cruelty is their goal. Not just the means. usonian Jan 2025 #41

3catwoman3

(26,547 posts)
1. Precisely.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:56 PM
Jan 2025

Spot on summary of the essential differences.

SheltieLover

(66,824 posts)
2. Absolutely!
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:05 AM
Jan 2025


Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Ferrets are Cool

(22,126 posts)
4. Right there with ya!!
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:22 AM
Jan 2025

NoMoreRepugs

(11,231 posts)
5. Exactly.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:26 AM
Jan 2025
 

HooksJan

(3 posts)
6. YES AGREE!
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:27 AM
Jan 2025

I've had to disown virtually my entire family and social life because most of them right moderate-conservative cultists.

I AM NOT PUTTING UP WITH CULTISTS

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
17. Same with us. One of our children and my grandkids.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:11 AM
Jan 2025

I can’t stomach it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,024 posts)
42. Welcome to DU
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:46 PM
Jan 2025

Faux pas

(15,635 posts)
7. Bravo
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:27 AM
Jan 2025

spanone

(138,835 posts)
8. K&R
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:28 AM
Jan 2025

chowmama

(726 posts)
9. Exactly.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:28 AM
Jan 2025

There are lines you cannot cross. This is one of them.

Skittles

(163,600 posts)
10. THANK YOU
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:32 AM
Jan 2025

and spare me the THERE ARE GOOD CONSERVATIVES - if you believe in such utter shit, NO YOU ARE NOT A GOOD PERSON

cate94

(2,952 posts)
11. Well said
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:37 AM
Jan 2025

Agree completely

Bluethroughu

(7,191 posts)
12. I do not befriend psychopaths or enablers there of.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:39 AM
Jan 2025

I've tried to find common ground, but they are at the wave and have a nice day territory now.

I can not handle the level of BS.

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

The Madcap

(1,114 posts)
14. Politics should not be aboiut setting the end goal
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:54 AM
Jan 2025

But about how we get there. The end goals should be obvious: less suffering, better health, education, strong economy, etc. Right now, it seems the end goals are disputed, which to me seems to be the root of the problem.

hamsterjill

(15,773 posts)
15. Been practicing that creed since 2016.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:59 AM
Jan 2025

I live in Texas and therefore, I am sometimes forced to deal with conservatives in my job and in consumer businesses. But I do not have to be friends with them.

I simply deserve better.

Meowmee

(8,722 posts)
16. Yes and more 👏🏻
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:09 AM
Jan 2025

PennRalphie

(410 posts)
18. There are a lot of threads
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jan 2025

About why family has been disowned or life long friendships have been ended. It’s politics. Oh, I know the reasons stated are always “they believe” this or that.

If you are certain that you’re so correct in ending friendships, why defend the reasons? Just end the friendships, disown the family, stop talking to neighbors. There’s no defense needed. Just stop doing it.

Does announcing the reasons why you’ve ended friendships need an explanation? No. They probably feel the same. I don’t understand the need for announcing it.

Cirsium

(2,359 posts)
19. It is helpful
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jan 2025

It is helpful to others.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
23. I already ended the friendships. But thanks for acting like you know me.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jan 2025

Also if you read the post, you know why I made it. /end

PennRalphie

(410 posts)
33. The point of telling everyone is?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jan 2025

Is it a badge of honor to tell strangers that you’ve ended friendships? I really don’t get it.

It must be totally and completely exhausting to live a life just waiting to hear a friend or family member say something that will cause you to announce you’re ending their friendship. Exhausting.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
34. Sure, Jan.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jan 2025

Quiet Em

(1,820 posts)
36. What is your point?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:05 PM
Jan 2025

The OP was pretty self explanatory.

PennRalphie

(410 posts)
39. I've clearly made my point
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jan 2025

Quiet Em

(1,820 posts)
40. Yeah, you sure did.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:27 PM
Jan 2025

progressoid

(51,316 posts)
43. This is a discussion forum.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:58 PM
Jan 2025

People discuss.

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
20. Most of them are clueless about reality
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jan 2025

They truly believe that millions of lies spinning them up and making them despise things our ancestors shed the most blood, sweat and tears to gain for their descendants

Public education

This is an information war. Reality is on our side. That makes absolutely no difference if the people raging over nonsense think the nonsense is real. Some of these fake ragers are highly educated too. Disinformation is entering every home everywhere.

If we want to make it through the next four years of kakistocracy we have to spread reality to everyone we can find. We also need to find a way to spread the truth so those caught up in the GOP’s web of lies hear it so maybe one day they can admit (even if the admission is only internal) that they have been utterly duped. I think this is our best chance.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
25. Good luck with that. They own ALL media these people watch/listen to.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:08 PM
Jan 2025

I need my energy to survive for the handful in my fam with me and for women and the least of us. You know, the thing Christian’s SAY, but the things people like me DO.

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
27. The lie machine does not have me
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:13 PM
Jan 2025

It does not have you. It does not have millions of us. Don’t let the lie machine lie you into silencing yourself.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
28. I am FAR from silent. I just don't participate in propaganda and willful ignorance.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:15 PM
Jan 2025

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
30. I don't either
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:20 PM
Jan 2025

Although the gop frame is so omnipresent, I might unconsciously on occasion.

Do not participate in the delusions. Participate in dispelling them. That is all I am saying.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
35. Again. Please don't assume you know where I'm talking. I am talking and more than that reading ALOT.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jan 2025

Evolve Dammit

(20,539 posts)
21. Yup. Well stated. All done
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jan 2025

republianmushroom

(19,582 posts)
22. Nails it.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:02 PM
Jan 2025

Quiet Em

(1,820 posts)
24. Yup.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jan 2025

I have no interest in entertaining these sick, cruel, deplorables.

Basic human decency is not up for debate.

kimbutgar

(24,906 posts)
26. For sure I can't be friends with someone who worships an evil dangerous child of Satan in the 🍊💩
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:10 PM
Jan 2025

TommieMommy

(1,863 posts)
29. I agree 👍
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:15 PM
Jan 2025

patphil

(7,716 posts)
31. It certainly does mean we couldn't be friends.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jan 2025

Politics aren't just politics any more. If you support the project 2025 agenda, and just voted for Trump for the 3rd time, you couldn't possibly be a friend of mine.

EarthFirst

(3,625 posts)
32. I turned my back on a 25 year friendship this past election...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jan 2025

…it pained me dearly to surrender our past fellowship in music; the love of the outdoors and through trials and tribulations related to relationships and health.

His cavalier nonsense as he descended into full MAGA was far too much to handle any longer; and his conversations eventually soured into deeply hateful perjoratives.

There is no effort to provide comfort to those who refuse others dignity and respect.

It’s painful; but honest and truthful.



PennRalphie

(410 posts)
37. So you'll never be able to teach him anything.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jan 2025

Everyone who claims to have ended friendships, disowned family, have zero chance of those people ever learning from them. They’ve most likely ended their friendship with you, too. The families you’ve disowned have done the same.

Who are you going to teach? You are not speaking to any of them. You’re going to educate random trump voters? The same people many here claim to slam the door on if they’re walking out before them.

Are you sure this is a great strategy for 26 and 28? Hey we’re no longer talking to you but we’re going to teach you. We’ve disowned you but here are facts. I’m sure that’s going to go over very well.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
44. Women with dead relatives and friends for the crime of pregnancy will teach a lot of people.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jan 2025

And many, many more will learn the hard way.
My question is, what was stopping them from learning? Or you from teaching them before now? What was stopping anyone? Aside from the fact that they are impervious to facts.
Women are dying right now today. Leading cause of death for children is guns. That’s where my energy will be focused. Not on lost fucking causes. I’m done with that, maybe the patron saint can take over.

bdamomma

(68,063 posts)
38. This
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jan 2025

bi-partisan idea, is not working and we all know from past situations the felon's regime never supported any bills that were for the people, just for the filthy oligarchs and their donors.



usonian

(17,243 posts)
41. Cruelty is their goal. Not just the means.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jan 2025

They should try it on themselves to see how it feels.

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