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Renew Deal

(83,165 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 08:07 PM Friday

Notable claims from the alleged "manifesto" of the alleged Vegas bomber

Two podcasters that are connected to the military received emails from the Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber. They read the emails and provided insight. You can watch the video here: https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19871271

The email is shown 14:45 into the video.

Some key points
Livelsberger tried to get his message out to people he trusted by 12/31, saying that he would be "leaving" on Jan 1.
The emails made two big claims. Only two countries had "gravitic propulsion." They are the US and China. He thinks that the drone technology is a "mutually assured destruction" scenario, because presumably they cannot be stopped. Livelsberger thinks it's a show of force by China.

The other major point is that there were some drone strikes by the US in Afghanistan in 2019 against "drug" facilities. Many civilians were killed, and this was likely a war crime, that the US has been covering up. There is reporting on these incidents available: https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/afghanistan-strikes-drug-processing-facilities

Livelsberger supposedly also claimed that the government was monitoring him, but they knew he was dangerous and were keeping their distance for now.

The podcasters have opinions on these topics, which I won't go far into. It appears that neither of them is familiar with "gravitic propulsion", so I'm guessing that the technology is not widely known to exist. They also think the event is meant to get attention, and not cause death and destruction.

They think that Livelsberger might still be alive. An army "public affairs officer" told one of them that the DNA of the person in the car doesn't match that of his son. I believe it insinuates that Livelsberger was upset after finding out a kid isn't his. But the guys in the video think it could be someone else's body in the front seat. He used a Tesla for two reasons. 1. It can limit the damage from the explosion. 2. It can drive itself, which is why he thinks there might be another body in the car.

Separately, there was a claim by one of the podcasters that Iran smuggled surface to air missiles into the US.

My take on it is that Livelsberger thought the drones and war crimes were a big deal and he wanted to do something very visible to get attention. Blowing up a truck on Trumps doorstep would do that, both with him and the media.

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Notable claims from the alleged "manifesto" of the alleged Vegas bomber (Original Post) Renew Deal Friday OP
There's addl info that's come out since the video was made: Dennis Donovan Friday #1
Thanks Renew Deal Friday #2
so a paranoid oldtime dfl_er Friday #3
The drone strikes actually happened Renew Deal Friday #4
gravitic propulsion remains theoretical oldtime dfl_er Friday #7
My take on it .... Think. Again. Friday #5
Thank you for posting this Beachnutt Friday #6
. Renew Deal Saturday #8
His kid is an infant daughter. Quiet Em Saturday #9
The claim from the army spokesperson was that the DNA in the car didn't match with his son. Renew Deal Saturday #10
I guess I don't get Quiet Em Saturday #11
So in other words he's a batshit insane Trumper... 🤨 Blue_Tires Yesterday #12
At the press conference, which was held after this podcast, they said the DNA matched. LeftInTX Yesterday #13

Quiet Em

(1,285 posts)
9. His kid is an infant daughter.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 03:49 PM
Saturday

I don't believe he has a son.

Doubtful they took DNA from the infant daughter.

Renew Deal

(83,165 posts)
10. The claim from the army spokesperson was that the DNA in the car didn't match with his son.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:05 PM
Saturday

It sounded like the army spokesperson was trying to misinform or change the narrative. It was left to the recipient of the information to interpret. So, what you're saying and what the army spokesperson said can both be true.

Quiet Em

(1,285 posts)
11. I guess I don't get
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:19 PM
Saturday

"the DNA in the care didn't match with his son".

Whose son? Livelsberger doesn't have a son. He has a father. Are they referring to his father?

LeftInTX

(30,972 posts)
13. At the press conference, which was held after this podcast, they said the DNA matched.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:11 AM
Yesterday

I believe it's an authentic email from ML, but I take their commentary with a grain of salt because they're RW.

I don't know what the heck "gravitic propulsion" is.

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