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LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 08:56 PM Jan 3

BREAKING: Las Vegas Metro police release more letters from bomber Matthew Livelsberger. Wanted Dems obliterated

BREAKING: Las Vegas Metro police release more letters from bomber Matthew Livelsberger where he tells Americans to “rally around” Donald Trump, Elon Musk and RFK Jr










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BREAKING: Las Vegas Metro police release more letters from bomber Matthew Livelsberger. Wanted Dems obliterated (Original Post) LeftInTX Jan 3 OP
Trumpers and MAGA newdeal2 Jan 3 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 3 #66
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jan 3 #2
I guess his uncle will read that and be "proud." Good gawd... hlthe2b Jan 3 #3
This is Russian style milbro stuff. Renew Deal Jan 3 #7
Yes, it's the usual sexist blather. yardwork Jan 4 #116
Birds of a feather. I'm sure he will.... LeftInTX Jan 3 #23
So the man does sound off his rocker. Baitball Blogger Jan 3 #4
Yes, it's strange... Think. Again. Jan 3 #10
Yes, he has accurately stated a problem regarding wnylib Jan 3 #24
Yes. That's the contradiction. Baitball Blogger Jan 3 #27
FOX ENTERTAINMENT stollen Jan 3 #40
I call them the Fox Ministry Of Propaganda. Initech Jan 3 #44
AKA RT stollen Jan 22 #134
As they ALL do. The MAGA zombie mentality B.See Jan 3 #43
A deep thinker NJCher Jan 4 #108
This is why I think there needs to be a lot more caution in praising Mangione ecstatic Jan 4 #109
Broken clocks and all that 🫤 Blue_Tires Jan 5 #128
NO!! AverageOldGuy Jan 3 #37
He sounds so brainwashed that his mind won't allow him to consider the one option that would Baitball Blogger Jan 3 #42
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 5 #131
Well, wow. Thank you for the affirmation, H2O! Baitball Blogger Jan 5 #132
he is nutty. barbtries Jan 3 #62
It's scary how many people agree with this deplorable line of thinking IronLionZion Jan 3 #71
Yes I know a few people who would agree with this lunatic rant. mountain grammy Jan 4 #79
The ApricotAntiChrist and the MuskRat soldierant Jan 3 #53
That would be remarkable sense. Baitball Blogger Jan 4 #111
What is wrong with these men? hunter Jan 4 #115
Certainly not all masculinity is toxic, soldierant Jan 4 #122
I'm wondering if the musk tfg h1b visa thing broke him? duncang Jan 4 #110
Yes, yes. That's the conclusion some of us are reaching. Baitball Blogger Jan 4 #112
He had traumatic brain injury and his 2nd wife kicked him out. They had a baby 8 months ago. LeftInTX Jan 4 #124
Good Riddance. tulipsandroses Jan 3 #5
Whiny-ass piece of shit. Good riddance. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 3 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 3 #67
Ha! Yeah. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 4 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 4 #89
Thanks. I basically needed somewhere to vent after the election! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 4 #96
To be fair, he wasn't in his right mind Blue_Tires Jan 5 #129
We have strayed too far from family values... ExciteBike66 Jan 3 #8
REPEATEDLY cheating on his wife. calimary Jan 3 #51
They mean the letter writer, not Trump obamanut2012 Jan 3 #58
Overlooked enid602 Jan 3 #9
"Masculinity is good and men must be leaders" sheshe2 Jan 3 #11
Stay the fuck away from women. milestogo Jan 3 #13
Have you seen his pic, she? I ran across Cha Jan 3 #54
Thanks, Cha. sheshe2 Jan 3 #65
Yeah, he wanted to "Obliterate" Dems but Cha Jan 3 #73
It still makes no sense to me. sheshe2 Jan 3 #76
Sad on every level. Kid Berwyn Jan 5 #133
It's the basis of their entire belief structure. yardwork Jan 4 #117
Yes, that sounds about right...for them. sheshe2 Jan 4 #118
Doesn't know income inequality is GOP bedrock. "wars without end states" bucolic_frolic Jan 3 #12
hegemony, you say? moondust Jan 3 #14
Trying to make his butt-hurt weak-ass suicide look noble. Pathetic. Gaugamela Jan 3 #15
Obliterated? Did he miss the election? BannonsLiver Jan 3 #16
Pathetic loser couldn't take getting kicked out of his own house kysrsoze Jan 3 #17
MAGAts want us dead. Kingofalldems Jan 3 #18
Yup Prairie Gates Jan 3 #59
Rantings of a lunatic Mountainguy Jan 3 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 3 #28
Being a lunatic is pretty much a prerequisite for MAGA. W_HAMILTON Jan 4 #105
Maybe... PCIntern Jan 3 #20
Will Speaker Johnson appologize to Biden Johonny Jan 3 #21
Talk about Rebl2 Jan 3 #22
This is the glory of right-wing propaganda, it is so delightfully effective.. magicarpet Jan 3 #33
so he was a Trump humper who is against greed Skittles Jan 3 #25
Yes but trDUMP is an alpha alpha manly he male who wear orange pancake makeup,... magicarpet Jan 3 #39
Trump is the biggest manbaby on the planet Skittles Jan 3 #57
I understand ... Fox Newz was piped into all military areas for years. live love laugh Jan 4 #102
but just how stupid do you have to BE to believe Fox propaganda??? Skittles Jan 4 #103
I dunno maybe it sneaks up on them like a drug. live love laugh Jan 4 #104
I watched it a few times when it first came on the scene Skittles Jan 4 #107
Apparently, the mental qualifications to be a Green Beret Mr.Bill Jan 3 #26
Why Am I Skeptical About This?...... global1 Jan 3 #29
His death will always be mocked for being nothing more than an internet meme (truck go boom). RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 3 #30
Yes, it's just totally nonsensical. Dems are still here. He's a giant charcoal briquette. BannonsLiver Jan 3 #61
It boggles the mind why anyone thinks Trump is the answer. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 4 #97
Incoherent twaddle. He says rally around the guy who embodies all of the RockRaven Jan 3 #31
"...rally around the guy who embodies all of the problems he identifies" B.See Jan 3 #46
So a mentally ill man commits suicide as a "tribute" to Trump... wow. WarGamer Jan 3 #32
What makes him """mentally ill""" as opposed to any other run-of-the-mill MAGA? W_HAMILTON Jan 4 #106
Did you see his letter re: the drone conspiracy theories? WarGamer Jan 4 #125
Brainwashing complete. nt hay rick Jan 3 #34
Suddenly things are becoming clear. Questions we had long ago asked are now being answered. taxi Jan 3 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 4 #87
?? Blue_Tires Jan 5 #130
Confused about the source of his angst. La Coliniere Jan 3 #36
Second to last paragraph happybird Jan 4 #100
Let's face it, anyone who supports Trump and Trumpism is mentally ill. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 3 #38
Good thing he offed himself. The cult should follow his example dalton99a Jan 3 #41
Being a paragon of machismo is paramount to these right-wing men. magicarpet Jan 3 #45
He should be referred to as the Tesla Bomber Orrex Jan 3 #47
I like that .. "the Tesla Bomber".. TY Cha Jan 3 #56
What a little JustAnotherGen Jan 3 #48
And the best way to rally around Trump and Musk Sneederbunk Jan 3 #49
So Why Did the Fucked UP Fucker "Obliterate" Cha Jan 3 #50
"Fight to get the Dems out of the government!!!" wolfie001 Jan 3 #52
An abolute baby and disordered thinker Prairie Gates Jan 3 #55
wow. barbtries Jan 3 #60
But of course! ThePartyThatListens Jan 3 #63
So mental illness with no political agenda. Got it IronLionZion Jan 3 #64
Where did these messages come from? Renew Deal Jan 3 #68
They were on his phone. LVPD retrieved them. Tweet is from KLAS in Las Vegas. LeftInTX Jan 3 #69
That's weird Renew Deal Jan 3 #70
FBI also. Well, he's dead and they don't believe he had accomplices. LeftInTX Jan 3 #75
Why are they releasing these? imaginary girl Jan 3 #72
I have the same question Renew Deal Jan 3 #74
Starts at 10 minutes. LeftInTX Jan 3 #77
Looks like the sheriff that released these messages is likely a republican. Renew Deal Jan 3 #78
Why? It shows the effer's mindset! The Republicans didn't believe he wanted to purge Dems. LeftInTX Jan 4 #80
I agree that it proves he's a terrorist. Renew Deal Jan 4 #82
The video went over much more stuff. He wrote this on his phone as a manifesto. LeftInTX Jan 4 #84
He literally accuses Trump of covering up war crimes in 2019 in Afghanistan. travelingthrulife Jan 4 #120
I also don't like the sheriff. He strikes me as a Trump supporter and seems too aggressive for the job. LeftInTX Jan 4 #91
I would call those writings signs of mental illness. sinkingfeeling Jan 4 #81
Alternatively, he might just be an idiot Prairie Gates Jan 4 #94
Most of the things he is pissed about were created by the Republicans he supports. doc03 Jan 4 #83
He said one thing but his actions said the opposite Hassler Jan 4 #85
Knr UTUSN Jan 4 #86
This is gobeldy-goop Iris Jan 4 #90
Delusions of influence and grandeur NeoTrajan Jan 4 #92
He's already forgotten Bristlecone Jan 4 #93
Yeah, the NOLA guy got all the attention and the cybertruck didn't blow to smithereens..... LeftInTX Jan 4 #95
Timothy McVeigh Wanna-be. fuck that guy and never speak his name. Right wing terrorism is here. ZonkerHarris Jan 4 #98
He may have been mentally ill, but he was also a dumbass. LudwigPastorius Jan 4 #99
Well of course he did - 1/3 part wingunt, 1/3 part part PTSD, 1/3 part a-hole UTUSN Jan 4 #101
Crumbling due to lack of "morales". What a moran. Lemons UK Jan 4 #113
Wow - that's one scrambled MAGA brain. Guess he forgot Trump thinks of him as a sucker and loser. Vinca Jan 4 #114
The irony. No group of individuals will ever have more political power to do harm than these Passages Jan 4 #119
I hope the Feds are checking on his military associates MagickMuffin Jan 4 #121
Wow. It seems like he's got reality backwards. How many others do, too? nt allegorical oracle Jan 4 #123
The Speaker of the House has referred to Democrats as the enemy Docreed2003 Jan 4 #126
This trump supporter is an asshole LetMyPeopleVote Jan 4 #127

Response to newdeal2 (Reply #1)

malaise

(282,395 posts)
2. Get thee to the greatest page
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:05 PM
Jan 3

for visibility

I love that he’s all for family values and rallying around the COnvicted felon. Wish he paid more attention in English class.
Good riddance.

yardwork

(66,013 posts)
116. Yes, it's the usual sexist blather.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:19 AM
Jan 4

White men good, women weak, etc.

His own life contradicted it, which is why he was in despair.

Baitball Blogger

(49,631 posts)
4. So the man does sound off his rocker.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:12 PM
Jan 3

But I do see a contradiction. He says the billionaires have sold them out, (and yes, I would agree) but then he says rally around Trump and Elon Musk? Aren't they the ones who have empowered the billionaires?

Think. Again.

(22,330 posts)
10. Yes, it's strange...
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:17 PM
Jan 3

There are quite a few points he made that any self-respecting Dem would agree with.

wnylib

(25,211 posts)
24. Yes, he has accurately stated a problem regarding
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jan 3

the 1% and income inequality, but then completely misses the source of the problem by blaming Democrats and siding with the 1% politically.

Baitball Blogger

(49,631 posts)
27. Yes. That's the contradiction.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:06 PM
Jan 3

It sounds like he was so programmed to think away from the proper solution, that his brain cracked.

Initech

(104,395 posts)
44. I call them the Fox Ministry Of Propaganda.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:38 PM
Jan 3

They so badly want to be the American version of Russia Today.

B.See

(5,001 posts)
43. As they ALL do. The MAGA zombie mentality
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:36 PM
Jan 3

is INCAPABLE of comprehending how Trump and his filthy rich acolytes are PRECISELY the people they claim to abhor.

ecstatic

(34,703 posts)
109. This is why I think there needs to be a lot more caution in praising Mangione
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:53 AM
Jan 4

Mangione seemed to be well read, but most of these guys are extremely confused rightwingers. These guys will be targeting prominent Democrats next. None of it should be encouraged because the copycat violence will 100% be turned back on us. There aren't a lot of left-leaning armed and violent zealots.

AverageOldGuy

(2,513 posts)
37. NO!!
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:30 PM
Jan 3

He’s not nutty.

He represents a VERY LARGE % of our population.

You must live in urban America.

Come out here in the rural counties and listen to these guys at the bars, the Legion halls, the Moose lodge, the volunteer fire departments and rescue squads, on the Boards of Supervisirs.

Baitball Blogger

(49,631 posts)
42. He sounds so brainwashed that his mind won't allow him to consider the one option that would
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:35 PM
Jan 3

put the pieces together.

It does sound like his remedy is to kill Democrats, so...yeah. That's insane. And if the others believe that in the rural areas, why aren't the media putting up red flag warnings to protect the rest of us? We don't promote murder.

Sorry, but he does sound insane, and so do they.

H2O Man

(76,486 posts)
131. Recommended.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:17 AM
Jan 5

Interesting and well said. I have an associate that thinks "brainwashing" to create such unstable individuals is an on-going program. This is, in his opinion, going on at levels beyond "perception management" of the masses. I do not agree or disagree with him, but it is interesting to consider. Your post reminds me of our most recent conversation, from last night, when you said, "That's insane." Not that if true anyone could likely be considered legally "insane" in the justice system. But they might be.

Baitball Blogger

(49,631 posts)
132. Well, wow. Thank you for the affirmation, H2O!
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:31 PM
Jan 5

That was my first reaction. My second was, damn, I might be right.

Yes, I do believe there are mental changes going on in their heads. To hate and be that judgmental against a race or culture and forget everything about being a good person in the universal sense, it is something that psychologists should pitch in and start telling us the truth about, because we are seeing it play out in real life.

And, I know it's a physical change because it happened to me for about 20 minutes many years ago. I don't like talking about it because it shames me, but if I'm right, then maybe someone should open the dialogue. After it happened, I thought to myself, this is how they feel all the time! Okay, let me begin by saying that it was not a big deal for anyone else, but it was for me because it was so not my personality. It just wasn't me.

It occurred maybe thirty-five years ago, where there weren't many Latinos where I lived. So, let's just say I lived in an American Anglo world and back then I was still going along with the idea of assimilation. So, one day I was out on an errand and I was driving through an outdoor shopping center. The car in front of me stopped and someone got out. That was not a big deal. What was a big deal is that the car waited for the passenger, blocking the lane. I can't remember why I couldn't get around him, but that's the scenario.

Okay, that might annoy anyone, but for me it got worse because I tied it to something I know about the Latino culture. I grew up abroad and I know they are creative drivers. And some of the things they do would not be considered safe driving by any standards, like the Puerto Rican mom who would be at the back of the car line for the child pick up at school. She had her child wait for her when he came out and position himself at the farthest end, beyond where the normal pick up areas took place. When she saw him she would then drive quickly around the other cars and he would hop in the car and they whizzed off. It was dangerous because she would drive by the other cars so fast that if any child decided to walk between the cars to get to the parking area, she would never see them.

Anyway, just know that the driving in Latin America can get pretty creative. It didn't bother me when I was single, but as a mother I definitely learned to appreciate America's strict rules on the road.

So what happened with the car that blocked me. On that day I was particularly tired and run down. So when the car blocked me my reaction was visceral. it reminded me of how the same thing would happen at the CVS in Miami Gardens when I went down to visit my parents. It was common practice back then (Police stopped it about a decade later), but the two things came together, and I swear it was like I became possessed. I could actually feel anger and hatred bristling along my spine and the thought that came to my head was, "Why don't they stay in their own country, or learn our laws!" I held onto that level of intense judgement for about five minutes and it took another 15 minutes for reason to finally calm me down. Afterward I accepted that I had overreacted, but the one thing I thought to myself, "My God, this is how racist Anglos must feel ALL the time."

So, for 20 minutes, I was fully assimilated into the conservative Anglo culture. And from that day on the social experiment was over. I began to back away from the process.

So, yes, if there are any studies in psychology that will recognize this level of physical change in a person, now is the time to let us know. Because I believe its what s happening on the Right with many people. They have yielded reason and accepted being possessed by inner demons.

barbtries

(30,279 posts)
62. he is nutty.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jan 3

the country is sick. Mass sociopathy. propaganda has accomplished this breaking of the brains of about half the country. they are all nutty.

IronLionZion

(48,246 posts)
71. It's scary how many people agree with this deplorable line of thinking
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jan 3

we rarely know who is nutty enough to do something until it's too late.

soldierant

(8,316 posts)
53. The ApricotAntiChrist and the MuskRat
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:02 PM
Jan 3

are billionaires r]themselves (or at least one of them is and the other pretends to be.)

Blowing up a Tesla in front of a Trump** hotel doesn't look like rallying around them. It looks more like having realized he was an idiot and not being able to live with the truth, to me.

Baitball Blogger

(49,631 posts)
111. That would be remarkable sense.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:25 AM
Jan 4

Maybe he couldn't accept the fact that Elon Musk had co-opted them? It broke his brain.

hunter

(39,436 posts)
115. What is wrong with these men?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:32 AM
Jan 4

They discover that everything they thought they knew about God, Politics, and Women is a lie and then, instead of seeking any kind of truth, instead of opening their minds to new ideas, they go on murderous self-destructive rampages.

Anti-intellectualism is rotting the fabric of our nation.

soldierant

(8,316 posts)
122. Certainly not all masculinity is toxic,
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jan 4

but toxic masculinity does exist. Inability to admit a mistake is one marker of it. (Toxic femininity also exists, sadly.)

duncang

(3,767 posts)
110. I'm wondering if the musk tfg h1b visa thing broke him?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 03:24 AM
Jan 4

You had bannon and loomer tear into tfg and musk along with a few others. Nick Fuentes went after jd’s wife. Was the h1b finally a bridge to far?

Baitball Blogger

(49,631 posts)
112. Yes, yes. That's the conclusion some of us are reaching.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:29 AM
Jan 4

Especially if there's a white dominance desire behind their agenda. Elon Musk displacing good jobs for whites to give to minorities would be something that would destroy the weakest among them.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
124. He had traumatic brain injury and his 2nd wife kicked him out. They had a baby 8 months ago.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jan 4

“He would go through periods of withdrawal, and he struggled with depression and memory loss,” Arritt said.

“I don’t know what drove him to do this, but I think the military didn’t get him help when he needed it.”

When Livelsberger struggled during the time they were dating, Arritt prodded him to get help. But he would not, saying it could cost him his ability to deploy if he was found medically unfit.

“There was a lot of stigma in his unit, they were, you know, big, strong, Special Forces guys there, there was no weakness allowed and mental health is weakness is what they saw,” she said.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hotel-fire-soldier-brain-trauma-afghanistan-4c5a20b500bc2131a7ef324878938034

FBI said it was PTSD,, he also wrote a bunch of stuff about drones (he seemed paranoid) in his manifesto and about war crimes in Afghanistan. He said he did what he did where he did because it was a "Wake up call". He literally told everyone to support Trump, Musk, and Kennedy. He claimed he was doing this to get Trump to notice stuff about Chinese drone warfare on the east coast. He tried to contact Hegseth, but was unsuccessful. He also claimed he did it to "cleanse himself of the brothers I've lost and relieve myself of the lives I took" I don't think it was about visas

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Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
129. To be fair, he wasn't in his right mind
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:07 AM
Jan 5

But I'll never complain about one less Trumper wasting our oxygen.

calimary

(85,662 posts)
51. REPEATEDLY cheating on his wife.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:57 PM
Jan 3

Melania, AND on the two discarded wives before her - Marla and Ivana.

Wonder who’s Number Four, and whether she’s already lurking somewhere in the picture.

enid602

(9,252 posts)
9. Overlooked
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:14 PM
Jan 3

Only one question; how did Trump manage to overlook Livelsberger for the DoD Chief position?

sheshe2

(90,967 posts)
65. Thanks, Cha.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:26 PM
Jan 3

I have seen the pic.

I still can't figure out his motive for killing himself, in a Tesla and in front of a hotel that has tsf's name on it. I am curious to know WTH is going on.

Cha

(309,183 posts)
73. Yeah, he wanted to "Obliterate" Dems but
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:39 PM
Jan 3

decided Obliterating himself was More Important.

It's said his wife left him.. & he was totally brainwashed... all he did was shoot himself in the head and blow up inside a Tesla in front of a Sick Fuck hotel in Las Vegas.

A perfect Metaphore for the incoming Shit.

sheshe2

(90,967 posts)
76. It still makes no sense to me.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jan 3

Neither the location or the bombing of the Tesla. It makes no sense at all.

Kid Berwyn

(19,716 posts)
133. Sad on every level.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jan 5

PTSD. PSYOPS. Raised on BFEE diet of Reaganomics. Radicalized by Putin’s professionals* to worship Trump.

* Note the guy was a Special Forces NCO — dipshits don’t make Master Sergeant.

yardwork

(66,013 posts)
117. It's the basis of their entire belief structure.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jan 4

It's the same old toxic American myth. "White men created this nation from the wilderness and only white men can make us great. The Democrats try to put women and non-whites in charge and that's why we're losing." (They use different words of course.)

Boils down to: Woke is bad.

bucolic_frolic

(49,489 posts)
12. Doesn't know income inequality is GOP bedrock. "wars without end states"
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jan 3

I think he means dates. He's his own brain trust. 3/4 emotion and light on facts.

moondust

(20,832 posts)
14. hegemony, you say?
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:38 PM
Jan 3
According to Goebbels, the conquest of Lebensraum was intended as an initial step[171] towards the final goal of Nazi ideology, which was the establishment of complete German global hegemony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

kysrsoze

(6,283 posts)
17. Pathetic loser couldn't take getting kicked out of his own house
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:44 PM
Jan 3

And he cries about blatant corruption, yet is too thick to see how rampant it is in his own thieving party. Enjoy your dirt nap, wingnut.

Response to Mountainguy (Reply #19)

PCIntern

(27,211 posts)
20. Maybe...
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:54 PM
Jan 3

They were also implying that he commit suicide because his DNA does not match his son’s implying that he’s not the dad. I might think that the occupant of the car is not who we think it is. Right now I don’t know exactly what to think.

Johonny

(23,154 posts)
21. Will Speaker Johnson appologize to Biden
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:55 PM
Jan 3

Because he was dead wrong about Biden focusing on domestic RW terrorists instead the magic imaginary evil immigrant. We all know Johnson won't because he is a pile fake Christian crap.

Rebl2

(15,994 posts)
22. Talk about
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:56 PM
Jan 3

brainwashed. He talks about income inequality and self enrichment which is what republicans are all about. He speaks of homelessness issues in this country. Republicans, who he adored apparently, would prefer putting the homeless in prison instead of helping them. He seemed to hate war, yet he was in the military and fought in wars. Who got us in the war he fought in, republicans.

magicarpet

(17,883 posts)
33. This is the glory of right-wing propaganda, it is so delightfully effective..
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:25 PM
Jan 3

Reality is fabricated to blame exclusively those who you hate. Your red Nazi team will be the savation of the world and bring justice, equality, peace, and the blessings of the Trinity upon you.

magicarpet

(17,883 posts)
39. Yes but trDUMP is an alpha alpha manly he male who wear orange pancake makeup,...
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:32 PM
Jan 3

.... and spritzes half a large can of Aqua Net hairspray on his coiffure before he will even think of leaving the house.

Skittles

(163,028 posts)
57. Trump is the biggest manbaby on the planet
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:15 PM
Jan 3

I will NEVER understand how any self-respecting military person can support Cadet Bonespurs.

live love laugh

(15,102 posts)
104. I dunno maybe it sneaks up on them like a drug.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:16 AM
Jan 4

I will never know fortunately because I have never and will never watch that crap.

Skittles

(163,028 posts)
107. I watched it a few times when it first came on the scene
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:25 AM
Jan 4

I quickly pegged it as absolute garbage and an insult to any form of intelligence.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
26. Apparently, the mental qualifications to be a Green Beret
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:05 PM
Jan 3

are a fairly low bar to get over. This guy is a sociopath and a coward.

global1

(26,081 posts)
29. Why Am I Skeptical About This?......
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:15 PM
Jan 3

Where have I heard this language and theme before?

Manchurian Candidate - maybe?

Coincidence?

Who is the beneficiary of this message?

I got a tinfoil hat for Christmas!!!

30. His death will always be mocked for being nothing more than an internet meme (truck go boom).
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:16 PM
Jan 3

On top of that, his call to arms screed came off sounding very Charles Manson-ish. Both were crazy kooks. Livelsberger, a great big nothing-burger. Trump was the hill he died on, pathetic.

BannonsLiver

(19,020 posts)
61. Yes, it's just totally nonsensical. Dems are still here. He's a giant charcoal briquette.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:20 PM
Jan 3

“I’m going to incinerate myself to own the libs.”

RockRaven

(17,102 posts)
31. Incoherent twaddle. He says rally around the guy who embodies all of the
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:18 PM
Jan 3

problems he identifies (greed, gluttony, lack of morals, lack of respect, too much processed food, too much screen time, income inequality, weekend at bernie's, blatant corruption) because supposedly the walking talking tweeting avatar of all those things will fix them. What a dumbfuck.

Bye Felicia.

B.See

(5,001 posts)
46. "...rally around the guy who embodies all of the problems he identifies"
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jan 3

As do they all. For every one MAGAt like him there are hundreds more.

W_HAMILTON

(8,836 posts)
106. What makes him """mentally ill""" as opposed to any other run-of-the-mill MAGA?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:24 AM
Jan 4

The fact that he took his ideology so extreme that he resorted to political violence? (LOL, I didn't think that one through, since clearly it's not this based on all the examples of MAGA political violence through the years).

The fact that he ended up accidentally or purposefully taking his own life in doing so?

Or...?

How do you distinguish this fool from any other MAGA fool out there spouting the same sort of bullshit?

WarGamer

(16,731 posts)
125. Did you see his letter re: the drone conspiracy theories?
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:46 PM
Jan 4

And the quotes from former girlfriend?

He was failed by the VA.

taxi

(2,118 posts)
35. Suddenly things are becoming clear. Questions we had long ago asked are now being answered.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:26 PM
Jan 3

Questions we asked when studying earlier civilizations and their beliefs, the questions of how the entire world believed in mythological beings and creation stories. Now we know. The illusion that humanity and civilized society has advanced in those thousands of years is just that, an illusion. We are no smarter or better than our predecessors in faraway lands. The stories of whom they called gods lived on mountains, in oceans, flew through the sky, and even drained oceans. On top of that healthcare for the gods was impeccable - they were immortal.
And now we know how myths, legends, and folklore comes to be.

Response to taxi (Reply #35)

La Coliniere

(1,354 posts)
36. Confused about the source of his angst.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:27 PM
Jan 3

Not too smart if you can identify real problems yet at the same time side with their source. Looks like he blew up “real good”, as someone used to say. What a fool.

happybird

(5,368 posts)
100. Second to last paragraph
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:42 AM
Jan 4

Seems to me he had PTSD, as well as being poisoned by right wing propaganda and toxic “alpha male” puffery.
Sadly, veteran and active duty military suicides are not uncommon.

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
38. Let's face it, anyone who supports Trump and Trumpism is mentally ill.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:31 PM
Jan 3

Livelsberger is just an extreme example.

People on the political right (especially the far right) are divorced from reality. It's just a matter of to what degree.

magicarpet

(17,883 posts)
45. Being a paragon of machismo is paramount to these right-wing men.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:40 PM
Jan 3

Anything less should be taken out back, made to dig their own grave, and then shot.

Sneederbunk

(16,002 posts)
49. And the best way to rally around Trump and Musk
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:53 PM
Jan 3
is to commit suicide and blow up a Cybertruck in front of a Trump hotel.

wolfie001

(4,362 posts)
52. "Fight to get the Dems out of the government!!!"
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:59 PM
Jan 3

That's not patriotic. That's flat-out Nazism. His dad's a goofy clown. I wish they'd just ignore his family at this point. No more "cow patties" of wisdom from them.

barbtries

(30,279 posts)
60. wow.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:19 PM
Jan 3

sounds like this guy should have been in care. he points out inequality and then says let's rally around the fascists and the oligarchs?

his brain must have really hurt. that is so back assward i'm just shaking my head.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
69. They were on his phone. LVPD retrieved them. Tweet is from KLAS in Las Vegas.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jan 3

LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — “This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wake up call,” a note found on a phone inside the Tesla Cybertruck that exploded on New Year’s Day outside the Las Vegas International Trump Hotel said, according to police.

At a news conference Friday, law enforcement officials gave additional details on the events that led up to Matthew Livelsberger, 37, driving a Tesla Cybertruck to the hotel and detonating explosive materials inside it.

Livelsberger died from a gunshot wound to the head just before the explosion, the coroner’s office ruled Thursday. LVMPD Sheriff Kevin McMahill said Livelsberger was positively identified by several things, including tattoo comparisons.

“While the body was still in the vehicle, we were unable to identify those specific tattoos until we were able to remove some of it,” McMahill said.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/police-to-release-more-details-at-in-las-vegas-new-years-day-explosion/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=socialflow


They had a big ole press conference today. It starts at 10 min. The press conference stated they would release these and the reporter released them on twitter. The bomber also sent an email to a guy with weird drone conspiracy theories.


&ab_channel=AssociatedPress

Renew Deal

(83,707 posts)
70. That's weird
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jan 3

Who is responsible for this investigation? Why would LVPD be in a hurry to release these? Police Departments are not usually in a hurry to release evidence.

Renew Deal

(83,707 posts)
74. I have the same question
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:41 PM
Jan 3

What is the value of releasing this off of his phone? What else did they find on the phone that wasn't released? Who has the authority to release info from his phone? Why is LVPD releasing evidence when this is likely a federal investigation?

Renew Deal

(83,707 posts)
78. Looks like the sheriff that released these messages is likely a republican.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:59 PM
Jan 3

He was endorsed in his nonpartisan election by Joe Lombardo, who is now the republican governor of Nevada.

https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-a98dbad3582419333ba8204900d66326

The release of this information might be intentionally subversive.

Renew Deal

(83,707 posts)
82. I agree that it proves he's a terrorist.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:07 AM
Jan 4

It might also be a call to action. It's just unusual that these two messages were released while other materials weren't.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
84. The video went over much more stuff. He wrote this on his phone as a manifesto.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:13 AM
Jan 4

He removed all his political posts from FB and also posts with his wife prior to all of this. (This was per his uncle yesterday. Uncle stated that he had a falling out with his wife, so he removed all posts and that he also removed posts about politics)

Also yesterday an ex girl friend came forward.

Video goes over more stuff like where he charged his vehicle. Also, he allegedly emailed a retired military guy. That specific email is going all over the internet. It's also full of crazy stuff. In the presser they talked about the email. They said they think it's him, but they can't be 100% sure.



travelingthrulife

(1,939 posts)
120. He literally accuses Trump of covering up war crimes in 2019 in Afghanistan.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jan 4

It's a love/hate sort of thing.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
91. I also don't like the sheriff. He strikes me as a Trump supporter and seems too aggressive for the job.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:04 AM
Jan 4

The sheriff spoke for 5 minutes and showed crime scene photos. The assistant sheriff (counter terrorism) gave a narrative of the events and ML's path and stuff. He was much easier to listen too. Then the FBI and ATF spoke. Then the gravelly sheriff opened up Q&As.

doc03

(37,630 posts)
83. Most of the things he is pissed about were created by the Republicans he supports.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:09 AM
Jan 4

He thinks the most corrupt president and the richest man on earth are going to make things better for the comman man.

Bristlecone

(10,655 posts)
93. He's already forgotten
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:11 AM
Jan 4

Nothing but misguided ramblings of a mentally unstable person that he thought would be held up as some weird call to action. All drowned out by another lunatic just hours before.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
95. Yeah, the NOLA guy got all the attention and the cybertruck didn't blow to smithereens.....
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:20 AM
Jan 4

People speculated it could have been a Tesla battery gone bad or camping equipment gone wrong. No one died but him, but a terrorist attack complete with an ISIS flag, truck running people over, active shooter, 15 dead people and IEDs placed all over town will certainly grab much more attention and resources than a suicide via fireworks.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
98. Timothy McVeigh Wanna-be. fuck that guy and never speak his name. Right wing terrorism is here.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:39 AM
Jan 4

LudwigPastorius

(12,025 posts)
99. He may have been mentally ill, but he was also a dumbass.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:39 AM
Jan 4

How are you going to rail against the 1% and corrupt politicians lacking morales (sic) while idolizing a rich, crooked degenerate like Donald Trump?

UTUSN

(73,675 posts)
101. Well of course he did - 1/3 part wingunt, 1/3 part part PTSD, 1/3 part a-hole
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:44 AM
Jan 4

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Silly me to have the thought pass through that military protocol/norm is that personal politics is to be kept out of official military interactions. This dude was on active duty, not a "veteran," so why was he posting his personal opinions signed off with his military identification stuff?

Oh, he's a MAGAt, so protocol/norms don't apply.





Vinca

(51,828 posts)
114. Wow - that's one scrambled MAGA brain. Guess he forgot Trump thinks of him as a sucker and loser.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:53 AM
Jan 4

Passages

(2,409 posts)
119. The irony. No group of individuals will ever have more political power to do harm than these
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:04 PM
Jan 4

soulless unethical men. Unprecedented when you add the power of SCOTUS in their favor.



MagickMuffin

(17,522 posts)
121. I hope the Feds are checking on his military associates
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jan 4


Our country has a serious mental health crisis with a large portion being our military personnel. They have been brainwashed to hate their fellow Americans because of politics.

Question is Does Fox “News” use subliminal programming?



Docreed2003

(18,129 posts)
126. The Speaker of the House has referred to Democrats as the enemy
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:49 PM
Jan 4

We are in for a slog fam....I have no clue what the future holds for this country but it feels like we're sitting on a powder keg of truth vs manufactured lies and fascims vs democracy and oligarchy vs all of us

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