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Cyrano

(15,351 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:05 PM Dec 23

King Donald wants to own Greenland and the Panama Canal

He claims that Greenland (which is a territory of Denmark) is needed for America's security. And he wants ownership of the Panama Canal because their fees for ship passage are too high.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2024/12/23/trump-says-us-should-take-ownership-of-greenland-and-threatens-to-takeover-panama-canal/

He doesn't get crowned until January 20th, yet he's already beginning to redefine his kingdom. What next? Declare that England, and France are hereby two new American states?

We might as well enjoy "normal" life for the next 28 days. Come January 20th, we can expect a daily announcement of insanity from the Trump Castle. (The place that used to be called the White House).

I will never in my life forgive anyone who cast a vote for this madman. They've sealed their own fates, as well as that of America.

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King Donald wants to own Greenland and the Panama Canal (Original Post) Cyrano Dec 23 OP
I want a pony! mucifer Dec 23 #1
... 2naSalit Dec 23 #2
Panama might be happy to sell the canal back to the US. MineralMan Dec 23 #3
He will demand that Panama pay all operating costs, Cyrano Dec 23 #4
Nothing will surprise me. MineralMan Dec 23 #8
Everything he spouts is a smokescreen for his griftocracy. usonian Dec 23 #5
First we take Manhattan DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 23 #6
Give it some time... Xolodno Dec 23 #7
Trying to claim Cuba goes back at least to the 1850s Retrograde Dec 23 #9
Somebody should tell Donald Greenland is NOT Greedland. n/t valleyrogue Dec 23 #10
Seriously Matthew28 Dec 23 #11
Canada Too joemacdawson Dec 23 #12

MineralMan

(148,110 posts)
3. Panama might be happy to sell the canal back to the US.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:15 PM
Dec 23

Climate change and drought have caused big problems for the canal. There's less water available to keep the locks full. That means substantial traffic delays for shipping through the canal. It also increases costs for whoever is operating the canal. So canal transit fees have to go up.

At some point, it will become quite burdensome to keep the canal operating at even a break-even cost/income basis.

So, maybe Trump can have his wish. Soon, though, he'll wish he hadn't wished for it, I expect.

Cyrano

(15,351 posts)
4. He will demand that Panama pay all operating costs,
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:25 PM
Dec 23

while all fees are to be deposited in The King's petty cash account,

usonian

(14,923 posts)
5. Everything he spouts is a smokescreen for his griftocracy.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 03:00 PM
Dec 23

Watch my lips move, not my bitcoin haul.

Xolodno

(6,783 posts)
7. Give it some time...
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:30 PM
Dec 23

...and he'll want Cuba as well. We struck a deal with the Russia to never invade or aid anyone else on that endeavor. We start pushing on that, nukes will be back on that island in no time. Possibly in Venezuela and Nicaragua as well.

We'll go from a 15 to 20 minute window of warning to practically only knowing when they hit.

Retrograde

(10,768 posts)
9. Trying to claim Cuba goes back at least to the 1850s
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 07:46 PM
Dec 23

One of the goals of the Southern expansionists (they wanted new territories for cotton, and hence slavery) was to annex Cuba as well as other parts of Latin America. They got part of their wish in the Mexican-American war, but, as usual, it wasn't enough. MacPherson discusses this in his Pulitzer Prize-winning "Battle Cry of Freedom"

Matthew28

(1,832 posts)
11. Seriously
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:02 PM
Dec 23

If Trump used his presidential war powers to do this. What would stop him from doing so?

joemacdawson

(73 posts)
12. Canada Too
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:09 PM
Dec 23

He’s implied Canada is really the 51st state and Canadians would be happy to pay fewer taxes.

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