Report Concludes Matt Gaetz Had Sex with a Minor

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Report Concludes Matt Gaetz Had Sex with a Minor

December 23, 2024 at 6:35 am EST By Taegan Goddard 14 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2024/12/23/report-concludes-matt-gaetz-had-sex-with-a-minor/

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Former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) was found by congressional ethics investigators to have paid numerous women — including a 17-year-old girl — for sex, and to have purchased and used illegal drugs, including from his Capitol Hill office, according to a final draft of a comprehensive investigative report obtained by CBS News.

From the report: “The Committee determined there is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, impermissible gifts, special favors or privileges, and obstruction of Congress.”

More: “The record overwhelmingly suggests that Representative Gaetz had sex with multiple women at a 2017 Florida party, including the then-17-year-old, for which they were paid… Victim A recalled receiving $400 in cash from Representative Gaetz that evening, which she understood to be payment for sex. At the time, she had just completed her junior year of high school. Victim A said that she did not inform Representative Gaetz that she was under 18 at the time, nor did he ask her age.”

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[lapfog_1]

1. if someone even looks under 30

or acts under 30... you really have to ask and make them prove it.

He knew or should have known. Especially if he is paying the girls. I am sure there are more such incidents like this, only they haven't spoken up about it.

[Callie1979]

22. You're right. Its imperative when you're a young guy now even though some laws have changed.

Happened to me decades ago but I found out the real age & said hey, you cant come over anymore!! We're still friends all these years later too.

[displacedvermoter]

40. He is a goddamned lawyer, an officer of the court.

Yeah, he should have verified, but was too arrogant and probably too wasted.

That said, 30 or 40 US Senators would have voted to make him Attorney General, including a bunch of Christian theocrats. And Fetterman?

[stollen]

83. Gaetz is a fucking spoiled brat

I hope he and his family have a lovely holiday together.

[allegorical oracle]

2. Well, if TSF's history is any map of the future, Gaetz will be POTUS someday. How far our

standards have fallen.

[Emile]

3. Pedophile asshole needs to be in prison.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

16. Not defending nor condoning Matt Gaetz and his actions.

But a pedophile preys on pre-pubescent children. Which to me, is much different than what he did.

[Emile]

30. Child sexual abusers have been difficult to classify.

[unblock]

36. as a practical matter, "pedophilia" is used regarding anyone under the legal age of consent.

yes, if one is being strict about it:

pedophilia - under 11
hebephilia - 11-14
ephebophilia - 15-19

but people aren't familiar with the other two terms, so "pedophilia" has gained a second meaning to pertain to anyone under age.

it's unfortunate, but that's the way language works sometimes.

i have a box of "kleenex" sitting on my desk. the actual brand name is "puffs", but we never call them that, nor do we call them facial tissues. sometimes a more specific term becomes the generic term.

[JoseBalow]

63. Isn't that really just splitting hairs?

[unblock]

68. from a practical and legal perspective, yes.

maybe some jurisdictions make a distinction, and perhaps the age of the victim factors into sentencing, but for the most part, under age is under age.

if you're a psychologist studying or treating patients, these are useful distinctions. the younger victim, the more outrageous the offense and the psychology can be quite different. there's clearly something very, very wrong with sex with a child who hasn't even reached puberty. such a person is clearly getting their own gratification at the expense of an child who can't possibly have any concept of what's going on. the older the victim gets, the more it is a matter of where society has decided to draw the line. chronological age is a bit arbitrary in determining when someone really can understand the concept of giving consent, but it's the best we can realistically use. so the psychology may be just as insensitive to the victim as with a younger child, or it may be that they are trying to have an actual relationship with the victim (and it may appear to be reciprocal), but they may not understand or accept society's rules and laws and have trouble abiding by them.

to be clear, it's *always* immoral when for an adult to have sex with a minor, but the levels of moral outrage vary depending on the circumstances and the relative ages and circumstances, and these distinctions may be helpful in distinguishing these.

but yeah, at a high level, it is splitting hairs. that's why lay people just call all these things "pedophilia" rather than get into the perhaps subtle differences.

[Polybius]

52. True

And in most states, it's the legal age of consent.

[soldierant]

82. The law does not make that distinction.

Except in "Romeo and Juliet" cases, and I'm pretty sure Gaetz is not young enough to claim that. Speaking in mental health terms, sure, Pedophiles, Hebephiles, and Ephebophiles are different - but any who act upon those desires are equally guilty of statutory rape.

[COL Mustard]

20. Which one? There are many from whom to choose

I know you mean Gaetz but there are lots to choose from!

[Emile]

51. Maybe Gaetz will start ratting them out.

[magicarpet]

53. Madison Cawthorn seems to have the goods on the US Congress' party boys, drugs, gang rape, and perverts..

[Emile]

54. I thought George Santos was going to rat out

some of them too.

[SheltieLover]

4. Wouldn'f it be nice if we could count on DOJ to lock him up & keep him there?

More mockery of our justice system by these weirdos & creeps.

[sop]

56. Why didn't the Heathrow, Florida, PD or the Seminole County Sheriff's Department investigate or do anything?

Unfortunately, the party in Heathrow, Florida (Seminole County) took place in 2017. The statute of limitations for statutory rape in Florida is three years. If the offense occurred on or after July, 2020, the statute of limitations is eliminated.

[mgardener]

5. Trump didn't know?

Or Trump didn't care.

How incompetent is Trump??

[Kali]

7. are you kidding?

there was probably high fives

[LisaL]

8. How could he not know?

[tanyev]

12. Trump knows. Trump approves.

You don’t get into the gang unless you’ve committed crimes.

[keithbvadu2]

42. ...and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it - Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

“I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it - Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141705027

[surfered]

6. Another GOP groomer. They are always projecting.

Q was right, but just got the political parties mixed up

[underpants]

10. Every accusation is an admission

[BOSSHOG]

18. Right out of the Nazi Playbook

[GiqueCee]

9. One only has to take one look...

... at Gaetz's sneering countenance to know he shouldn't be permitted within a thousand yards of a playground.

[johnnyfins]

11. This right here

[paleotn]

13. So, it turns out Madison Cawthorn wasn't too far off in his claim....

Sex crimes and Illegal drugs? No wonder McCarthy told Madison to shut the fuck up so quickly. Wonder how deep all this goes?

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/01/1090231196/rep-cawthorns-sordid-tales-of-life-in-congress-frustrate-gop-leadership

[Wiz Imp]

24. Cawthorn, as despicable a creep as he may be, was surely telling the truth when he made those accusations.

Remember, MTG threatened to out Republicans for similar activity if the Gaetz report was released. I wonder if she will follow through on that threat? I'm willing to bet this type of thing runs rampant on the Republican side of the aisle, just as Cawthorn implied. I hope I live long enough to see it all exposed.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-threatens-to-expose-all-of-gops-sexual-harassment-and-assault-claims-if-gaetz-report-is-released/

Reminder of Cawthorn's allegations:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/28/politics/madison-cawthorn-orgy-invite-cocaine-claim/index.html

Madison Cawthorn claims he was invited to an orgy in Washington

North Carolina Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn claimed that he has been invited to an orgy in Washington and had personally seen leaders in the efforts to curb drug addiction doing cocaine.

Cawthorn, who was elected in 2020 as the youngest person ever to serve in Congress, made the comments during an appearance on the “Warrior Poet Society” podcast with host John Lovell.

Lovell was asking Cawthorn how close the fictitious TV show “House of Cards” was to real life as a member of Congress. To which Cawthorn said this:

“The sexual perversion that goes on in Washington … being kind of a young guy in Washington, where the average age is probably 60 or 70 – [you] look at all these people, a lot of them that I’ve looked up to through my life, I’ve always paid attention to politics. … Then all of a sudden you get invited – ‘We’re going to have a sexual get-together at one of our homes, you should come.’ … What did you just ask me to come to? And then you realize they’re asking you to come to an orgy. … Some of the people leading on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country, and then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you. And it’s like, this is wild.”

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[IronLionZion]

33. First rule of GOP predator club, is you don't talk about GOP predator club

he spilled the beans so they threw him out.

[stollen]

84. And how do we find out?

A sting?

How did Gaetz connect with HS girls anyway?

[mzmolly]

14. Does Trump want Gaetz executed now?

Trump said all child molesters should be executed.

[Justice matters.]

60. Gaslighting like always.

Felonius Crapus knows it works on his dontcare magats.

That way, they won't believe he raped a 13 year old and even if they'd do, he knows they won't care, like in:

"Execute himself? If it was true, he would not say that, of course!"

[Johonny]

15. If only that were a crime

But it is America and Matt was born rich so the Justice department couldn't find enough evidence . . .

[LW1977]

17. And Garland wouldn't prosecute!

What a gutless worthless AG he was!

[BoRaGard]

19. G.O.P. values are total scum suckery

[Beachnutt]

21. trump felt left out

more than likely.

[Callie1979]

23. So WHY the heck wasn't he charged way back when this started????

Just another example of power & money keeping him free

[IronLionZion]

25. Qanon missed another one, all GOP for some reason

oh well. MAGA will lower the legal age because they are predators.

There are other GOP congressmen with similar behavior if anyone wants to dig into some uncomfortable truths.

[Happy Hoosier]

26. Even the GOP acknowledges it.... but Garland didn't charge.

He really let us down, IMO.

[Prairie Gates]

27. Reminder: Trump wanted just weeks ago to make this disgrace the Attorney General of the United States

[AllyCat]

28. Arrest him.

[kansasobama]

29. Does not matter

President is an abuser felon. Idiots in America elected him.

[sinkingfeeling]

31. He will probably be the next US Senator from Florida.

[Traildogbob]

32. So is ole Marge

Gonna go silent in her “full throated” support of Maddie? Your too ole girl, he don’t want none of what ya peddling

[aggiesal]

34. Call me cynical, but the (R)'s will celebrate him ...

He'll get voted back into office, and when he enters the hallowed halls of Congress, he will receive a standing ovation, just like all the others (R)'s that got caught in a sex scandal and still got re-elected.

Rep. Scott DesJarlais, R-Tenn.
DesJarlais's the pro-life Republican doctor had slept with a patient and asked her to get an abortion, got re-elected

Sen. David Vitter, R-La.
As Senator, Vitter's phone number was included in a phone logs of "D.C. Madam", got re-elected

Rep. Mark Sanford, R-S.C.
As governor, he disappeared telling his staff that he was hiking the Appalachian Trail, while he was actually with his mistress in Argentina. Got re-elected.

[Ocelot II]

35. More details about the report here:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/matt-gaetz-ethics-report-released/

Quite the party animal. I've known better-behaved tomcats.

[walkingman]

37. Why wasn't he charged? It's not like he is a Priest 😂😂😂

[Dr. T]

38. Are all conservative

Repuglicans sexual predators or just the one's they vote for? They've lost the moral high ground in every conceivable way yet they refuse to concede.

[Be The Light]

39. And what will happen to gaetz?

Nothing, zilch, nada.

[keithbvadu2]

41. Trump, who raped a 13 y/o, wanted Gaetz as AG.

[Dave Bowman]

43. He looks creepy as hell.

[Mysterian]

44. I'm sure Florida law enforcement will get right on this

and apologize for their failure to protect the victim.

[Orrex]

45. Gosh, why would the Christian GOP work so hard to keep this information hidden?

[keithbvadu2]

46. Cash flow

Link to tweet

[Kid Berwyn]

47. Coulda Been America's Next Attorney General

That's what the First Felon wanted.

[yaesu]

48. Did little Matt buy any firearms after taking illegal drugs? Did he lie on any federal forms?

inquiring minds want to know.

[BobTheSubgenius]

49. So, to sum up:

He is a near-perfect candidate for a high-level position in the incoming maladministration. If he can't hook up the Orange POS, who can?

[Arazi]

50. Child rape. Don't sugar coat this if/when talking to Trumpers

[MayReasonRule]

55. Direct Link To PDF Of Committee's Report...

The Report

[Bluethroughu]

57. The GOP DID NOTHING ABOUT CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING,

Merrick Garland didn't want to be political, so drugs, sex trafficking of minors and all the illegal filth going on IN THE CAPITAL went without punishment.

WTF IS GOING ON IN THE DOJ?

[RockRaven]

58. The DOJ cares more about avoiding blowback than prosecuting the powerful.

The institution protects the institution first, does it's job second. No matter who you put in charge, they all act that way.

[Bluethroughu]

64. Then it does not function as necessary and should be changed into

The institution our country needs.

[uponit7771]

71. Yep and they're not going to deport children just their parents

[Lanius]

59. Florida's age of consent is 18. He should be charged, especially since he was in a position of public trust at the time.

And this guy seriously wanted to be Attorney General of the United States? The MAGAts' levels of narcissism and hypocrisy know no bounds.

[oldtime dfl_er]

61. obstruction of Congress?

I haven't read the thing so I don't know what this is, but it seems ... important.

[mercuryblues]

62. He did not have sex with a minor. Her RAPED her

Full stop.

[Hotler]

65. " and to have purchased and used illegal drugs, including from his Capitol Hill office",

Why no drug charges?

[orwell]

66. Just call them...

...the RAPEblican party and be done with.

Pedophiles, Rapists, and Deviants, oh my!

Onward HypoChristian soldiers!

[RandySF]

67. I don't think it's federal unless it crosses state lines.

[phylny]

69. RAPED a minor

[louis-t]

70. What's next for Matt? Job opening up at

Fox News?

[Skittles]

80. he could still be president

there's no bar deep enough for repukes

[MayReasonRule]

72. EXTRA! EXTRA!

[LilElf70]

73. Congrats Matty boy

Now your officially qualified to be senator. No one appears to care.

No one will prosecute. No one wants to sue. Excuses I've heard? What federal law is he guilty of? Ever since Trump got in there, this appears to be the norm in this country. I'm so sick and tired of the MAGATS, I could puke.

[Irish_Dem]

74. Drugs, sex w/minors, prostitutes in his US congressional tax payer funded office.

Too bad there aren't any laws against this kind of thing for members of congress.

[pfitz59]

76. In my state, Washington,

the 'age of consent' is 16. In Florida it's 18. Gaetz violated Florida law and should have been prosecuted in Florida.

[Blue_Tires]

77. He's a Trumper so nobody will care

Just like how absolutely nobody cared about Donnie's name all over Epstein's call records and flight logs or all the hush money he paid out to victims...

[Evolve Dammit]

78. LOCK HIM UP. That's what would happen to the rest of us. JFC. And why did FL dismiss this case??

[Skittles]

79. seems like it was more important to go after Hunter Biden

ugh

[GoodRaisin]

81. And Trump wanted to make this thug the U.S. AG.

Rapists supporting rapists. Our government is sick.