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maxrandb

(16,090 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:38 AM Dec 22

How I make MAGA heads explode

I tell them I worked a federal government job that allowed me to retire at 54, with a life-time pension and great health insurance.

They look at me like I'm a FUCKING thief, until they ask; "what did you do"? When I say; "served 30 years in the United States Navy", they sputter and stammer like I've asked an AI program to explain why Musk is a genius.

Their brains kind of short circuit as they try to figure out if I'm a "French Surrender Monkey Commie", or if they should thank me.

I really wish they instead would ask WHY THEIR PENSIONS AND BENEFITS CAN'T BE LIKE MINE!!!!!!?????

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How I make MAGA heads explode (Original Post) maxrandb Dec 22 OP
Nice! MineralMan Dec 22 #1
Good post - I dodged the draft in 1968 simply because I did not think that the Vietnam War was justified walkingman Dec 22 #2
30 years, that's a lot of cruises. Emile Dec 22 #3
There's an old joke that goes something like this: PCIntern Dec 22 #4
funny, but in fairness . . . . . SarcasticSatyr Dec 22 #7
My Sailors quickly learned BOSSHOG Dec 22 #23
OMG! I just had a flashback! maxrandb Dec 23 #36
Roger That My Friend BOSSHOG Dec 23 #44
One of my favorite was "if no one is in charge, then everyone is" maxrandb Dec 29 #45
HAHAHA! Brilliant! Genevra Dec 22 #5
Love it 😍. n/t iluvtennis Dec 22 #6
Or why everyone's pension and benefits DENVERPOPS Dec 22 #8
That's the real question - I think the military (at every level) deserves every cent of compensation TBF Dec 22 #9
Were they able DENVERPOPS Dec 22 #10
I'm pretty sure that came out - it likely wasn't as high as Musk was ranting about TBF Dec 22 #12
It was 3.8% and they have not had a raise since 2009. It was bullshit to get rid of it. Lochloosa Dec 23 #31
They're paid over 174,000 a yr. They dont need a raise & one certainly isnt deserved. Callie1979 Dec 23 #33
In most cases DENVERPOPS Dec 23 #37
LOL Callie1979 Dec 23 #39
BS. My brother works a lot more than 40 hrs a week. Lochloosa Dec 23 #43
I can only imagine DENVERPOPS Dec 23 #35
That's why so many are wealthy. They can afford to be in congress Lochloosa Dec 23 #38
Maybe look how their wealth has INCREASED since they GOT there. Callie1979 Dec 23 #40
I'm inclined to agree with you after living in Wash DC TBF Dec 23 #42
The most important thing they will do DENVERPOPS Dec 23 #41
The pay raise was NOT in the bill that passed. Wiz Imp Dec 22 #15
No HUAJIAO Dec 22 #26
OK, let's talk about the pay raise. It was a 3.8% raise not the 40% that the illegal immigrant said. Lochloosa Dec 23 #30
I agree with you that they deserve an appropriate level of compensation COL Mustard Dec 23 #32
Congressmembers Should be Mr.Bee Dec 22 #18
Not to rain on your rant but.. OrangeJoe Dec 22 #25
LOL!!!! LymphocyteLover Dec 22 #11
Also the big reason they hate public education: Teacher pensions. lindysalsagal Dec 22 #13
Thank you for your service. mountain grammy Dec 22 #14
I do the same thing LogDog75 Dec 22 #16
Yes Indeed Teammate BOSSHOG Dec 22 #24
I still recommend military service to young people all the time. Callie1979 Dec 23 #34
Brilliant! Blue_Tires Dec 22 #17
A thinking man Blue1Red2 Dec 22 #19
WHY THEIR PENSIONS AND BENEFITS CAN'T BE LIKE MINE!!!!!!????? Quanto Magnus Dec 22 #20
Keep taking about "president Musk" kevink077 Dec 22 #21
I get the same response when I explain my politics and also say kairos12 Dec 22 #22
The look on the face odins folly Dec 22 #27
I love it! MAGAts are so limited in their understanding of what the government does. Martin68 Dec 22 #28
I tell them they're doing the billionaires' dirty work for them for free. Initech Dec 22 #29

walkingman

(8,705 posts)
2. Good post - I dodged the draft in 1968 simply because I did not think that the Vietnam War was justified
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:05 AM
Dec 22

and I think all the other wars that followed have been meaningless and seemingly never ending. So I think you deserve whatever compensation you get for being willing to put your life on the line for some bureaucratic politician who takes no risk for himself or his family.

More power to you. I hope you are doing everything you can to promote a more peaceful world as someone that understands the impact it has on real lives and families. ☮

I'm already against the next war.

PCIntern

(27,125 posts)
4. There's an old joke that goes something like this:
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:18 AM
Dec 22

An older retired guy takes a job at Walmart as a greeter. One night he goes home, has his dinner, and the phone rings. It’s his manager, who says to him, “You know, you do a great job when you’re here. You’re extremely nice to the customers, you execute your job duties beautifully, you understand your role in Walmart Hierarchy, you read and follow the manual, everything. But you constantly show up 10 or 15 minutes late. Did you do that in the job that you had before us?“

Yes, says the man, I did.

“And what did they say to you when you showed up for work earlier at that job?“

They said, “Good morning, Admiral.”

SarcasticSatyr

(1,299 posts)
7. funny, but in fairness . . . . .
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:01 PM
Dec 22

he had to show up early for many years before he could get away with that ...

Just a Navy vet talking ...

BOSSHOG

(40,663 posts)
23. My Sailors quickly learned
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:40 PM
Dec 22

My first order of business. When You’re on time you’re late.

maxrandb

(16,090 posts)
36. OMG! I just had a flashback!
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:39 AM
Dec 23

I worked for a great XO on one of my ships when I was a Chief. He was tough, but fair, and his catchphrase was "if you're on time, you're late".

Fast forward about a decade and I was a Department Head at an F-18 Squadron. My new Chief was supposed to check-in with me and showed up right on time.

I said; "Chief, if you're on time, you're late". He turned white as a ghost, looked like someone just walked over his grave and said; "did you used to work for Captain (blank)?"

I laughed and said "yeah". I don't think either of us was "on-time" again.

Bravo Zulu for making me remember that.

BOSSHOG

(40,663 posts)
44. Roger That My Friend
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:56 PM
Dec 23

I don’t know when I originally heard it, but it worked like magic. My other favorite, if you will, is a quote by Henry Ford.” If you think you can or you can’t, you’re right.” Worked most of the time without too much supervision being used. I had it on a sign on my desk facing the visitor.

DENVERPOPS

(10,450 posts)
8. Or why everyone's pension and benefits
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:36 PM
Dec 22

Can't be like the Members of the House and Senate..........

TBF

(34,920 posts)
9. That's the real question - I think the military (at every level) deserves every cent of compensation
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:43 PM
Dec 22

that comes their way. But I may have a different opinion of Congress.

DENVERPOPS

(10,450 posts)
10. Were they able
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:03 PM
Dec 22

to shove thru their pay increases for congress critters which they tried to include on their budget bill proposal????????

TBF

(34,920 posts)
12. I'm pretty sure that came out - it likely wasn't as high as Musk was ranting about
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:51 PM
Dec 22

but I also think it was controversial enough that they took it out. This extension they passed is only 3 months and includes key spends like disaster relief (apparently NC is still a mess up in the mountains) and farm $$$. They will wait until a longer term bill and try to get that pay raise in there.

Lochloosa

(16,468 posts)
31. It was 3.8% and they have not had a raise since 2009. It was bullshit to get rid of it.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:10 AM
Dec 23

Callie1979

(454 posts)
33. They're paid over 174,000 a yr. They dont need a raise & one certainly isnt deserved.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:40 AM
Dec 23

None of them have ever retired from Congress poor either. Plus they get other compensation
Plus if they serve 20yrs they can retire with pension at 50. THATS early. If they're 62 they can retire with only FIVE years in office. not a full pension, but still better than private sector.

Maybe they should do what the framers intended & serve a few terms and LEAVE.
A term limit amendment would easily pass pretty much every state.

Lochloosa

(16,468 posts)
43. BS. My brother works a lot more than 40 hrs a week.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:13 PM
Dec 23

And the retirement is the same as the military. Your point?

DENVERPOPS

(10,450 posts)
35. I can only imagine
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:38 AM
Dec 23

that a small portion would need it........A large percentage are worth more than a couple of million......

Callie1979

(454 posts)
40. Maybe look how their wealth has INCREASED since they GOT there.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:42 PM
Dec 23

And that goes for both sides of the aisle.

TBF

(34,920 posts)
42. I'm inclined to agree with you after living in Wash DC
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:09 PM
Dec 23

as staff in law firms (back in the 1990s) ... the pay was better in the private sector at my level and we had massive O/T. The staffers on the Hill did not make as much. Most of the partners in the major law firms actually had higher salaries than the president, much less Congresspeople.

However the optics of it probably weren't great. I hope it's done after the new year, I don't keep up with it much anymore but like I said I wouldn't disagree with you.

DENVERPOPS

(10,450 posts)
41. The most important thing they will do
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 06:21 PM
Dec 23

is increase the debt limit a trillion or two so they can RENEW the huge tax cut he passed for the Uber Rich last time he was president, AND, so he can pass even yet ANOTHER huge tax cut for the Uber Rich....

Lochloosa

(16,468 posts)
30. OK, let's talk about the pay raise. It was a 3.8% raise not the 40% that the illegal immigrant said.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:09 AM
Dec 23

Second, they have not had a raise since 2009. How would you like that at your job?

Third, My Step-brother is a congressman and sleeps on his office couch because of the cost of living in DC. Maintaining two households on his salary would be impossible. He could walk away and make a high 6 figure salary, but chooses to fight the good fight.

You are spouting right wing talking points with the "congress critters" remark.

COL Mustard

(7,085 posts)
32. I agree with you that they deserve an appropriate level of compensation
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 06:28 AM
Dec 23

My GS-15 salary is actually higher than theirs but they get an allowance to run their offices. They can use that as a discretionary fund to pay their travel, salaries, etc. but their Federal retirement is based on their salary.

Mr.Bee

(458 posts)
18. Congressmembers Should be
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:12 PM
Dec 22

paid the national MINIMUM WAGE with any additional income from any source being unlawful.

OrangeJoe

(450 posts)
25. Not to rain on your rant but..
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 09:13 PM
Dec 22

Members of Congress get the same retirement benefits as every other federal retiree. That “them politicians get 100% of their salary and free health care for life” was invented by the right wing that wants to end democracy. Stop spreading the lie and do some research. The Congressional Research Service had excellent papers that clearly address this subject.

mountain grammy

(27,460 posts)
14. Thank you for your service.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:54 PM
Dec 22
When my husband met our Congressman at a Veterans breakfast the Congressman thanked him for his service. My husband said you can thank me by not messing with the VA except to improve it at the time it was Jared Polis who answered “yeah I hear that a lot”. Duh.

LogDog75

(244 posts)
16. I do the same thing
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:50 PM
Dec 22

I retired, at age 53, after serving 28 years in the AF and have the same benefits you do. It was the benefits that convinced me to enlist.
Except, when then begin complaining about government employees being lazy and, in general, being worthless. I ask them why they hate our military since everyone in the military is a government employee.

It's hilarious watching their brains and mouth work out-of-sync trying to come up with an explanation that doesn't make them look like they're dissing the military.

BOSSHOG

(40,663 posts)
24. Yes Indeed Teammate
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:45 PM
Dec 22

I am a proud military retiree, enjoy a modest pension, use TRICARE sparingly, take care of myself physically. All of us who retire today are volunteers. I will say we deserve our retirement package. But we also volunteered to die for our country to get it. Good On Us.

Callie1979

(454 posts)
34. I still recommend military service to young people all the time.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:52 AM
Dec 23

Especially if they dont know what they want to do for a living.
It will educate you in so many ways plus you'll see the world like most never do.
I never served long enough for a pension but my dad did. Best thing he ever did. I STILL wish I'd done my 20 even today in my 60s

Quanto Magnus

(1,054 posts)
20. WHY THEIR PENSIONS AND BENEFITS CAN'T BE LIKE MINE!!!!!!?????
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:13 PM
Dec 22

Because they've given up and are looking for someone else to blame.... They can't blame their leaders because then they'd have to admit that their whole political ideology is terrible for them.

kairos12

(13,359 posts)
22. I get the same response when I explain my politics and also say
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:50 PM
Dec 22

I'm an Army Ranger, and I ask, where did you serve?

odins folly

(296 posts)
27. The look on the face
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 09:50 PM
Dec 22

When i tell someone that 20 years in the USAF taught me to be a diehard liberal...

I did my 20 twice, USAF and TSA...

It occurs to me that the folks who disparage federal workers who retire with pension and benefits are the same jag offs who didn't want to answer to the man and thought the would be better off self employed..

Martin68

(24,850 posts)
28. I love it! MAGAts are so limited in their understanding of what the government does.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:27 PM
Dec 22

30 years of rightwing media have rotted trotted their brains.

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